Anderson Brexit Seminars

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
I will still be paid in pounds
why the :ROFLMAO: I was serious and what do you think of votes for women ? good idea or not ?
If its just for the well bred at least it would save me a trip to the village hall (y)
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Blod, I am certainly not having a go. I am curious though. In my situation, I have the farm I am happy with, I have my cows and do my bit of fattening, ie it have my business, job and a plan to pretty much carry on.
How could going to Anderson's, or anything else similar, make any difference to what I am doing? I can't imagine I am going to go and sell all the cows and get for eg rare breed hens on the back of some speculation.
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
The :ROFLMAO: was for the well bred comment. Your comment about women voting is naughty and you know it.
in that case your comment about votes in the first place was as well
if the answer was not going to be liked then blame Camron for asking the question
 

Blod

Member
Blod, I am certainly not having a go. I am curious though. In my situation, I have the farm I am happy with, I have my cows and do my bit of fattening, ie it have my business, job and a plan to pretty much carry on.
How could going to Anderson's, or anything else similar, make any difference to what I am doing? I can't imagine I am going to go and sell all the cows and get for eg rare breed hens on the back of some speculation.
In my work I meet so many people who blindly carry on as if everything will be fine. Open respectful discussion might just help a few to lift their noses a little and see what they could do differently. If you have a healthy thriving business and can weather a few worse years, great :).
I suppose that's true with or without Brexit.

I like to know the framework of possible models on which we could base our own. I can then lobby a lobbyist for my interest.
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
In my work I meet so many people who blindly carry on as if everything will be fine. Open respectful discussion might just help a few to lift their noses a little and see what they could do differently. If you have a healthy thriving business and can weather a few worse years, great :).
I suppose that's true with or without Brexit.

I like to know the framework of possible models on which we could base our own. I can then lobby a lobbyist for my interest.
think we will have our own model to play with flower (y)
 

TheDalaiFarmer

New Member
Because nobody knows then you cannot say its going to be hard because you don't know. Your speculating from reading the media and listing to a consultancy firm who as somebody else already said could of been employed by the government.

Not leaving the EU is all around us. The heir-achy do not want to leave so mass media speculation to continue to worry us all into not leaving is still happening or a grand scale. On a daily basis there is stuff in print with suggestions about a part brexit on some things. Teresa May is just saying what she needs to say to get her position secured but when the time comes she is not a brexiter to we will see.

Whilst I agree with you that nobody really knows, as no country has left the EU before, I believe that it's wrong to assume @Blod is speculating, as she is obviously getting out there and trying to grasp a better understanding of what might occur. Surely it's better to attend seminars such as this, and to listen to the media, rather than do nothing at all, and what appears to slamming those who do?
As for the hierarchy not wanting to worry us with media speculation, the whole debate for and against Brexit was based on speculation, to some degree there had to be because there isn't an example or parallel we can compare Brexit to.
News over the last day or two suggests that Theresa's position might not be as strong as she would like, with the House of Lords saying that article 50 shouldn't be allowed to be triggered by Mrs May alone and that Parliament too should debate it first.
Personally, I was rather displeased by the outcome of the referendum but now is the time for us as a nation, and particularly as the farming community, to pull together and support each other through these uncertain times
 

Ashtree

Member
or is it for everyone ?

Democracy was never ever intended for everyone! Democracy or tyranny, when you peel the onion you find a few Badtewsrds tend to have an influence and power quite disproportionate to their numbers.
I see the same game and power played out at my local and every other cattle market.
 
How about looking at all the different trade agreements already in place between the EU and nonEU countries?

I happen to think that most members of the public should never have been allowed anywhere near those particular ballot papers.

Euros because if you look at £ the exchange rate clouds the issue. And they won't be paying in £

1. Why? Perhaps none of them have any relationship to what the government might aim for.

2. I was under the impression such sentiments died long ago together with the Victorian gentlemen who thought in such a manner. It is a very high and mighty attitude to decide that some of those who are enfranchised under the law shall not have a vote. Who would you have permitted to vote in the Referendum? White males over 50 who were business proprietors or landed gentlemen and nobody else?

3. Why does the exchange rate cloud the isssue. Exchange rates fluctuate on a minute by minute basis. How do you know they will not be paying in Sterling? I do a little online business and my prices are set in € because I presently farm in the Eurozone. The exchange rate with all other currencies fluctuates, but I accept whatever that rate is at a particular moment when the transaction occurs so that I receive the amount in € that I require. If I was in the UK I would have done exactly the same and required payment in £.

If you are dealing with countries outside the Eurozone then you most certainly do not want to force them into paying you in € which you then have to convert to £. What is the point? The banks will make a profit from the conversions, you will not.
 

Blod

Member
1. Because you have to start somewhere. It is quite likely that UK will be able to make an individual agreement, let's hope so. It is also likely that it will be based on an existing framework with amendments.

2. The public vote for their representatives. The very fact that so many voters are waiting to see what happens before they react rather than being proactive and seeking to influence what is agreed makes me think that many made uninformed decisions. Being uninformed opens up the influence others have on me. It could then be argued that I am not wielding a vote to indicate my own will. Did you hear people say "If I had thought the 'leave' vote was going to win, I would never have voted 'out'"?

3. Euros because when you sell into a country it helps to look at what they are paying not what you are getting.
 
If I am looking to buy I consider what/where else I could buy for the same money. Not what the vendor could buy with the money I part with.

I imagine most people who think before spending do the same, but I still cannot understand why you want to be paid in €. As I posted, you are going to have to convert that to £. What the vendor can buy is matterless. I can buy a lot more with any quantity of € here than you can with the same quantity of € in the UK - after you have converted to £ of course.

There is no problem in telling a customer how much the cost is in € at a certain exchange rate, but given the fluctuations in XE it is sensible to request the IBAN transfer be made to you in the £ you want to receive.
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
if the pound falls our exports will be cheaper to those buying in euros so they are more likely to buy from us
with the same things we import will more expensive
Is this what you mean @Blod
 

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