Anybody Buying Cattle From Ireland

[bobajob]

Anybody buying beef cattle from Ireland just now with the way the currency is, is there money to be made.

Just a thought.

As an example but perhaps dear enough :

http://www.donedeal.co.uk/beefcattle-for-sale/30-continental-store-heifers/8736714?

://www.donedeal.co.uk/beefcattle-for-sale/4-charolais-cattle-for-sale/8736204?offset=6

http://www.donedeal.co.uk/beefcattl...estock-ltd-weanlings-stores/5771489?offset=28

@gone up the hill

 

[ridger]

Don't know how it works to buy in Ireland and move to England, but I'm half a mile from the Republic of Ireland and if I was to buy cattle in it, only one factory in the north would take them, and at a very bad price, lucky to get 2.20 a kg

 

[bobajob]

Why would that be, no real difference in the cattle? I have heard that before if they have IE in their tag

 

[ridger]

That's just how it is. The factories can go and buy cattle in cork and haul them up to derry and kill them, but if farmers buy cattle in south and feed them the same factory won't take them.

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

That's just how it is. The factories can go and buy cattle in cork and haul them up to derry and kill them, but if farmers buy cattle in south and feed them the same factory won't take them.

I think it is what is called "trade protection"!!
So much for Free trade in Europe.

 

[ridger]

I think it is what is called "trade protection"!!
So much for Free trade in Europe.

I suppose we should be feeling pity for the factories having to haul cattle from the other end of the country

 

[cull cows]

Anybody buying beef cattle from Ireland just now with the way the currency is, is there money to be made.

Just a thought.

As an example but perhaps dear enough :

http://www.donedeal.co.uk/beefcattle-for-sale/30-continental-store-heifers/8736714?

://www.donedeal.co.uk/beefcattle-for-sale/4-charolais-cattle-for-sale/8736204?offset=6

http://www.donedeal.co.uk/beefcattl...estock-ltd-weanlings-stores/5771489?offset=28

@gone up the hill

If been thinking over trying a load of grazing cows.just don't know how's to go about it

 

[severeoversteer]

If been thinking over trying a load of grazing cows.just don't know how's to go about it

maybe get a telephone number for a mart in the west of Ireland, somewhere like clare marts, or Ballinasloe mart and get talking to someone they would surely give a contact number of a cattle dealer that could round up cattle for you and do the paperwork, the west of Ireland is the area to be looking for cattle

 

[gone up the hill]

Anybody buying beef cattle from Ireland just now with the way the currency is, is there money to be made.

Just a thought.

As an example but perhaps dear enough :

http://www.donedeal.co.uk/beefcattle-for-sale/30-continental-store-heifers/8736714?

://www.donedeal.co.uk/beefcattle-for-sale/4-charolais-cattle-for-sale/8736204?offset=6

http://www.donedeal.co.uk/beefcattl...estock-ltd-weanlings-stores/5771489?offset=28

@gone up the hill

Some quality cattle in those links

Price wise they are £150/ 200 ish head less than in the UK on the current store job, biggest problem if we imported them is finding an ABB to take them, prob be okay at the moment as fat cattle are short but if/ when they get plenty coming in at the plants the imported cattle will be the ones that are made to wait to be killed!

Would be viable price wise and haulage costs wise etc if you bought an artic load at a time.

 

[gone up the hill]

maybe get a telephone number for a mart in the west of Ireland, somewhere like clare marts, or Ballinasloe mart and get talking to someone they would surely give a contact number of a cattle dealer that could round up cattle for you and do the paperwork, the west of Ireland is the area to be looking for cattle

You would also need to contact Animal health..

If I was to buy from there then I would want to go and see/ buy the cattle myself..

 

[ridger]

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You would also need to contact Animal health..

If I was to buy from there then I would want to go and see/ buy the cattle myself..

its usually not worth it, by the time they would be ready there will be a glut of cattle for 6 weeks and they will get over fat, because factory won't take them, been there done that

 

[ridger]

There is a mart 5 mins away from here in the ROI and I would dream of buying from it, all that testing hassle to get them into the north, they stand around starving for 3 days and it takes 2 weeks for them to get back to the weight they were when bought

 

[gone up the hill]

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its usually not worth it, by the time they would be ready there will be a glut of cattle for 6 weeks and they will get over fat, because factory won't take them, been there done that

Only be worth it if you had a contract with a plant who would take them..

Personally I don't think the gains would be worth the risk for the reason you state above.

 

[ridger]

Only be worth it if you had a contract with a plant how would take them..

Personally I don't think the gains would be worth the risk for the reason you state above.

Add that to the fact that stores are 150 to 200 pounds over priced anyway

 

[gone up the hill]

Add that to the fact that stores are 150 to 200 pounds over priced anyway

You mean over there or this side of the water?

I did actually think that the prices for those cattle when taking a look at the links were what we were paying here for the same grade cattle 12 months ago.

 

[ridger]

You mean over there or this side of the water?

I did actually think that the prices for those cattle when taking a look at the links were what we were paying here for the same grade cattle 12 months ago.

In the north and in England. When a 510 kg Friesan is sold for 1120 pounds, it's easily 200 too expensive. If not more.

 

[gone up the hill]

In the north and in England. When a 510 kg Friesan is sold for 1120 pounds, it's easily 200 too expensive. If not more.

I agree, doesn't seem to be any let up in the store trade! cant see how people think these cattle will breakeven let alone make anything unless the fat job clears £4/ kilo..

 

[ridger]

I agree, doesn't seem to be any let up in the store trade! cant see how people think these cattle will breakeven let alone make anything unless the fat job clears £4/ kilo..

It's crazy. Seemingly people who are becoming 'active farmers' are keeping a bottom in the trade. They might not be active for too long. Stores are usually easier to buy at end April or May though when everyone is filled up. Might as well let someone else feed them

 

[ridger]

I agree, doesn't seem to be any let up in the store trade! cant see how people think these cattle will breakeven let alone make anything unless the fat job clears £4/ kilo..

But if fat price goes to that stores will follow and fat price would need to hit £5 !

 

[gone up the hill]

It's crazy. Seemingly people who are becoming 'active farmers' are keeping a bottom in the trade. They might not be active for too long. Stores are usually easier to buy at end April or May though when everyone is filled up. Might as well let someone else feed them

Yea they do normally but I don't think they will get any cheaper end of April/May this year partly due to the active farmers you talk about and also the amount of dairy farmers quitting but still wanting cattle on the farm.

Your right about the £5/kilo..