Anyone known of an issues with JR Firby?

[Dave W]

I was trying to give a balanced response
from the above it’s higly likely it was sold in gwo

You can't give a balanced response without knowing the facts.
and only 2 people know the fact. The Op and mr firby.

 

[Farmer_Joe]

I agree, I can only comment my opinion as many many other forum members have done, if firby wishes to share his side im sure he is capeable of commenting. Thats the power of the internet and the whole point of forums.

 

[Dave W]

I agree, I can only comment my opinion as many many other forum members have done, if firby wishes to share his side im sure he is capeable of commenting. Thats the power of the internet and the whole point of forums.

Not really. The forum gives too many keyboard warriors a voice who have little or no grounds to form an opinion other than what they have read from other keyboard warriors.
You can't form an opinion if you have no facts to base it on

 

[Sebastian77]

B2B does remove the wheat from the chaff, so to speak - you don’t get the proletariat buying a Massey 135 on a finance deal over 200 years then the court unwinding the deal for them because they’re idiots.

B2B does require the goods to be as declared, though. If the dealer says it is blue, it needs to be blue.

Also worth saying that if you buy something and put just "1 pound" of the sale (limited to 30k) on a credit card, you are covered by section 75 and can just claim against your credit card provider who you can bet your arse will pursue the trader.

 

[milkloss]

Also worth saying that if you buy something and put just "1 pound" of the sale (limited to 30k) on a credit card, you are covered by section 75 and can just claim against your credit card provider who you can bet your arse will pursue the trader.

The protections aren't as good when the purchase is for a business so be careful.

 

[glasshouse]

The protections aren't as good when the purchase is for a business so be careful.

Exactly
Business people have virtually no protection compared to “ consumers”
Whether you are dealing with machinery men or banks or any of the other sharks we swim with.

 

[Fendt516profi]

Disagree completely, old tractor at extremely high retail price bought by consumer expecting it to work I assume under sale of goods act I. E pto steering etc is not like a light thats not working, Now if it don’t work he should sort it?
if he wanted a project he would have gone to York or cheffins…

I can only assume there is warranty implied as he is a dealer, in the car trade you have to honour this unless it’s to another dealer

How much did he pay for the tractor? I have missed that post. Also another point Firby has offered to fix the problem if the op takes it back the op wants it collecting and returning completely free of charge.

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

Whats gf?

Quite Frankly keep up

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

It seems the OP has disappeared and stopped replying to this thread,
I assume they have realised they have made a big mistake, throwing the toys out of the cott in public view, and now sadly not only look a fool for the way they have dealt with the situation, but have also failed in trying to to make themselves look in the right against a large dealer, that has offered to put the job right by the OP's own admission.
There is 3 sides to all stories, and really only getting half a side to it all,
It would of all sorted out if the OP had talked and worked with the dealer on this matter, to meet on a compromise to the situation, even if that meant having to take it back to dealer at their own cost, for dealer to sort,
Lots of things don't go to plan in life, the measure of a man is how it's sorted out, not what went wrong on the journey,
To sum it up to the OP, you bought a 50 odd year tractor, you viewed and tested it in person, and were happy to agree a price on it, paid the money and took the gamble,
The dealer on the other hand has offered to put things right after getting hold of him, and remember the dealer has other things to do than answer and run around your every whim and be on call just to yourself,
If you had not been as hasty in posting on here, and returned the said tractor for repair, it could of all been sorted out amicably, and remained on a reasonable good footing with said dealer,
Chalk it down to a learning curve on how to deal with people, your never to old to learn

 

[grainboy]

Op has disappeared, and also only joined Tff a month ago,
Take it as someone with an axe to grind, !!!!

 

[redsloe]

I notice Firby has a nice 8850 JD on their website. Anyone know if it's worth owt?

Asking for a friend.

 

[redsloe]

Op has disappeared, and also only joined Tff a month ago,
Take it as someone with an axe to grind, !!!!

Good. I've read his version of events 5 times or more, I don't want to read it all again.

 

[Fendt516profi]

Hhhhmmmm did he perhaps come across something bigger and thicker than expected? https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/fleming-agri-flail-mower.358276/

 

[Top Tip.]

If I was the dealer I would just take it as free advertising,on balance the comments have been pretty favourable and he’s probably had more traffic to his website than he’s ever seen.

 

[Zebbedee]

Hhhhmmmm did he perhaps come across something bigger and thicker than expected? https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/fleming-agri-flail-mower.358276/

There are usually 3 sides to a story I find ,,,the two opposing versions as you would expect then the 3rd correct story which I think @Fendt516profi has now found

 

[Zebbedee]

If I was the dealer I would just take it as free advertising,on balance the comments have been pretty favourable and he’s probably had more traffic to his website than he’s ever seen.

I thought the same

 

[smcapstick]

Also worth saying that if you buy something and put just "1 pound" of the sale (limited to 30k) on a credit card, you are covered by section 75 and can just claim against your credit card provider who you can bet your arse will pursue the trader.

One of the reasons I do not accept payment by credit card. People that insist on paying by CC tend to be trouble, as the extra protection they cite for it's use is unnecessary, as outlined earlier - if there is a genuine problem, the customer WILL get their money back regardless of how they've paid. A good dealer will either repair or take back a machine with faults. A slightly lower quality dealer will have a court force them.

In my experience, credit card users are like people that insist on using Paypal - they are planning on rejecting the item, or threatening their ability to action an automatic refund as a way of extorting money out of the seller.

No thanks.

 

[Sebastian77]

Exactly
Business people have virtually no protection compared to “ consumers”
Whether you are dealing with machinery men or banks or any of the other sharks we swim with.

No! Incorrect. Stop posting this rubbish.

The Sale of Goods Act 1979​

The Sale of Goods Act 1979 implies four terms into any contract for sale regardless of whether such sales are B2B or business to consumer (B2C). These are as follows:

• the transferor has good title and has the right to transfer the item sold;
• the goods correspond with the description given;
• the goods will be of a satisfactory quality and fit for their purpose; and
• if a sample is provided, the goods will correspond with this sample.

The majority of farmers will be sole traders, if you go to Morrison's and buy a cheese sandwich but it's actually tuna you can take it back! If you go to Screwfix and buy a drill and it catches fire the first time you use it you can take it back! If you buy a 10k tractor and it's gearbox falls out when drive it home - you can take it back!

Goods have to be correctly described and fit for purpose!!!!!!

 

[glasshouse]

No! Incorrect. Stop posting this rubbish.

The Sale of Goods Act 1979​

The Sale of Goods Act 1979 implies four terms into any contract for sale regardless of whether such sales are B2B or business to consumer (B2C). These are as follows:

• the transferor has good title and has the right to transfer the item sold;
• the goods correspond with the description given;
• the goods will be of a satisfactory quality and fit for their purpose; and
• if a sample is provided, the goods will correspond with this sample.

The majority of farmers will be sole traders, if you go to Morrison's and buy a cheese sandwich but it's actually tuna you can take it back! If you go to Screwfix and buy a drill and it catches fire the first time you use it you can take it back! If you buy a 10k tractor and it's gearbox falls out when drive it home - you can take it back!

Goods have to be correctly described and fit for purpose!!!!!!

Bolix

 

[Wellytrack]

Who would be a dealer?