Approx 20t of soil needed near Wentnor in Shropshire.

[mbmobileautos]

Soil needed to backfill a pond that was dug by a previous owner of some amenity land near Wentnor. Delivery by tractor with tipper trailer due to grass slope access off road.

Pond size 18m x 8m oval and around 1m deep.

 

[goodevans]

I don't think 20 ton will do it ,my calculations are 288t

 

[goodevans]

Actually probably nearer 144 tons as didn't take into account oval shape and sloping sides and density of freshly dug soil

 

[mbmobileautos]

That's still 7x my estimate so I think it's safe to say I was way off! What sort of cost would I be looking at for that quantity? I wonder weather it'd be best to level using the surrounding soil? I have no experience in this area I might add.

 

[ploughman1963]

Farmer Phil will bring you a few loads of 'filler' then you just need 20t of topsoil to cover

 

[mbmobileautos]

Is that something you can help with ploughman1963?

 

[ploughman1963]

Not me sorry. You have a neighbour not far away as described above - ask locally and you will be quickly directed to his door - he will be able to assist

 

[Ffermer Bach]

I would just get someone with a digger to level it, with the surrounding soil, it would only take an hour or two to do it (well lets say half a day) bound to be someone near you with a machine either a 6 ton machine on a dump trailer or a JCB, be far better than trying to transport in soil.

 

[Nearly]

Have you done a newt survey and contacted Natural England?

 

[mbmobileautos]

Have you done a newt survey and contacted Natural England?

Not yet, but it was something someone else has advised I do. The pond looks recently dug if that makes any difference? And now only centimetres deep.

 

[mbmobileautos]

I would just get someone with a digger to level it, with the surrounding soil, it would only take an hour or two to do it (well lets say half a day) bound to be someone near you with a machine either a 6 ton machine on a dump trailer or a JCB, be far better than trying to transport in soil.

This had crossed my mind. Maybe this is something the aforementioned 'Farmer Phil' could help with.

 

[ploughman1963]

This had crossed my mind. Maybe this is something the aforementioned 'Farmer Phil' could help with.

Oh definitely! - a man of many talents is Phil

 

[PSQ]

Whoever dug the pond probably used the excavated soil to landscape it. Ask the former owner who he used, and get the same operator to reinstate the site, especially if he can remember where he put the top soil...

 

[Kidds]

When you remove all the surrounding topsoil and use it to fill your pond it results in the whole area growing nothing. We have done it many times under my grandfathers instruction and even as a child I could see it was bloody stupid.
In my opinion it can't sensibly be done without importing material. Someone local will want somewhere to tip some soil when they have a building job. Put the word out and it will get done. Insist it is soil only though. not concrete and all sorts of other rubbish.

 

[mbmobileautos]

When you remove all the surrounding topsoil and use it to fill your pond it results in the whole area growing nothing. We have done it many times under my grandfathers instruction and even as a child I could see it was bloody stupid.
In my opinion it can't sensibly be done without importing material. Someone local will want somewhere to tip some soil when they have a building job. Put the word out and it will get done. Insist it is soil only though. not concrete and all sorts of other rubbish.

Id worry if that was a possibility. Forgive my ignorance but why would nothing ever grow after? If it makes any difference it will only be seeded for grass.

 

[mbmobileautos]

Whoever dug the pond probably used the excavated soil to landscape it. Ask the former owner who he used, and get the same operator to reinstate the site, especially if he can remember where he put the top soil...

That would make sense. The site is pretty uneven in places and the grass it quite patchy, maybe indicating the soil from the pond was spread over the rest of the plot and seeded?

 

[Kidds]

Id worry if that was a possibility. Forgive my ignorance but why would nothing ever grow after? If it makes any difference it will only be seeded for grass.

Because all the soil is in the pond and only subsoil left which has very low/zero fertility.

 

[mbmobileautos]

Because all the soil is in the pond and only subsoil left which has very low/zero fertility.

And this is exactly why I came here with the query. Thanks Kidds.

 

[shumungus]

Don't you just love the way that the general public always know more about a thing that they have no experience of and are prepared to argue the bit out. Want you to do 'a little job' that will only 'take a minute' then stubbornly argue when you try to point them in the right direction and inform them that its going to cost/use materials X 10 than they had expertly anticipated.

 

[mbmobileautos]

Don't you just love the way that the general public always know more about a thing that they have no experience of and are prepared to argue the bit out. Want you to do 'a little job' that will only 'take a minute' then stubbornly argue when you try to point them in the right direction and inform them that its going to cost/use materials X 10 than they had expertly anticipated.

I'm sorry, have I upset you Shumungus? I havent argued with anyone. In fact, I wholly appreciate every bit of advice I have received so far.