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Are Hereford x Cattle unpopular

Bald n Grumpy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
S E Wales
What do you want exactly?
A separate society or some kind of preservation organisation for old population that doesnt allow any ingression?
Would think a breed society that recognizes variations within the breed and isn't a one trick pony promoting one way all the time.
This applies to a lot of societies imo
 

Sharpy

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Livestock Farmer
You clearly don't sell many breeding animals if you think it doesn't matter what a bull looks like.
Try selling young breeding bulls or heifers off some old skinny rubbish looking parent stock and see how you get on.
I would say that @Henarar was meaning that you should pay rather more attention to the art of the breeder rather than the art of the feeder.
 

Agrivator

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Scottsih Borders
Dwarfism used to be a major problem in British Herefords.
That is complete rubbish - reference please?

My father bred Herefords. It wasn't unusual to have a dwarf calf. They invariably ended up in the freezer, and as I remember, they were perfectly good eating.

I think it's a generally agreed fact of life that pedigree breeders are not always scrupulously honest.
 
Would think a breed society that recognizes variations within the breed and isn't a one trick pony promoting one way all the time.
This applies to a lot of societies imo
British Simmental don't really acknowledge polled Simmental in promotions, even though polling will probably dominate the cattle industry eventually.
It doesn't really bother me though, in the days of social media we don't really need them to promote our stock.
 
Your right to many extremes either way is bad, but there are buyers out there who don't know what they're doing and then blame breeders because they aren't getting the results they wanted
Ive had people come to me to look at bulls and say that they don't know how to judge a bull that's not been fed for a sale.
That's how bad some people are at their job.
I know some others who can't spot when a bull is not very good even though he looks OK because he's well fed, some others think an animal is good because it won a show.
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Cowgirl

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Ayrshire
My father bred Herefords. It wasn't unusual to have a dwarf calf. They invariably ended up in the freezer, and as I remember, they were perfectly good eating.

I think it's a generally agreed fact of life that pedigree breeders are not always scrupulously honest.
Well I wouldn’t dream of contradicting your father but I hadn’t heard of it in this country. The American ones though usually had difficulty breathing because of deformed faces and often didn’t live long - they traced the origin to a particular US bull. There is an interesting book about it.
 

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