Are the AHDB complicit with RT?

[Worsall]

Are the AHDB complicit with RT?​

Please see the Arable Commentary thread, do the AHDB think we are thick?....some serious digging going on.

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[Grass And Grain]

I think to call a vote is the only answer, I have a suspicion that they are trying to side step the vote promised for next year because of the RT issue.

I wondered the same.

 

[Worsall]

DEFRA REVIEW APRIL 2020
Following a review into its role and function, the government has today set out a series of recommendations so the AHDB can be a modern and dynamic organisation that keeps pace with the needs of industry.
Accountability to levy payers.
There is strong support for a ballot of levy payers every five years as to whether a levy in each sector should continue. A ballot of levy payers could potentially provide industry with greater ownership and a say in the future direction of AHDB. I have asked my officials and officials from the devolved administrations to scope out this proposal further. In principle, I envisage AHDB would consult levy payers in each sector and put before them a five year programme of activity, for both cross-cutting areas and sector-specific priorities. Levy payers would then be able to vote on whether that programme is the most appropriate to support their sector.

 

[texelburger]

The pressure is really mounting and I fear they are desperate to hold onto their salaries. If only we had a Union to help fight our corner !
There is something seriously wrong with the current set up and the Government need to step in.

 

[Flat 10]

Yes all the good work the ADHB do is in danger of being lost. Baby and bath water comes to mind. As G&G says, it's simple. Stop backing RT and give growers an alternative and they can carry on, if not its goodnight and out.

 

[warksfarmer]

Yes all the good work the ADHB do is in danger of being lost. Baby and bath water comes to mind. As G&G says, it's simple. Stop backing RT and give growers an alternative and they can carry on, if not its goodnight and out.

There’s nothing good about the AHDB in my view. Under the freedom of information act I asked them for all the minutes from meetings from the last 4 years where Red Tractor was mentioned/discussed.

They came back with 1.

The AHDB pay RT £250,000 per year yet they never discuss it apparently.

The AHDB are as corrupt as RT and AIC and are hiding behind silence. When the cereals vote comes in AHDB are finished like the potato and horticulture sector of the setup.

 

[Flat 10]

There’s nothing good about the AHDB in my view. Under the freedom of information act I asked them for all the minutes from meetings from the last 4 years where Red Tractor was mentioned/discussed.

They came back with 1.

The AHDB pay RT £250,000 per year yet they never discuss it apparently.

The AHDB are as corrupt as RT and AIC and are hiding behind silence. When the cereals vote comes in AHDB are finished like the potato and horticulture sector of the setup.

That’s very disappointing. In the absence of a more relevant alternative I find the recommended list useful along with some of their trial work. However if they don’t immediately begin to distance themselves further from RT then I will vote for abolition (reluctantly).

 

[B'o'B]

Just so you can all come to terms with it quicker and not get your hopes up to much. Apparently George Eustice has decided that there won’t a yes/no vote on funding of AHDB cereals/oilseeds this time.

 

[Grass And Grain]

Just so you can all come to terms with it quicker and not get your hopes up to much. Apparently George Eustice has decided that there won’t a yes/no vote on funding of AHDB cereals/oilseeds this time.

That's how I umderstood it.

Wonder how many levy payers needed to trigger a vote?

 

[Grass And Grain]

There’s nothing good about the AHDB in my view. Under the freedom of information act I asked them for all the minutes from meetings from the last 4 years where Red Tractor was mentioned/discussed.

They came back with 1.

The AHDB pay RT £250,000 per year yet they never discuss it apparently.

The AHDB are as corrupt as RT and AIC and are hiding behind silence. When the cereals vote comes in AHDB are finished like the potato and horticulture sector of the setup.

That's one bit of discussion per £1m!

Under freedom of information, I think you asked them for correspondence from AIC, NFU, RT??? Did they ever provide it?

 

[simon w]

That's how I umderstood it.

Wonder how many levy payers needed to trigger a vote?

I have sent 2 emails to AHDB asking about their intention to hold a vote on the levy, 8 day and no reply. Do they think ignoring the levy payers will prevent us calling for a vote or make us more determined to to call one.

 

[ajd132]

Just so you can all come to terms with it quicker and not get your hopes up to much. Apparently George Eustice has decided that there won’t a yes/no vote on funding of AHDB cereals/oilseeds this time.

And in the mean time they have given him the ammo to ban autumn manure whilst the government passes a bill to allow private water companies to pump raw sewage into rivers.
Everything is a joke these days.

 

[teslacoils]

That's how I umderstood it.

Wonder how many levy payers needed to trigger a vote?

There are growers / farmers on the adhb cereals board. Lobby them to put "should we be disbanded" on the agenda to be voted on.

Otherwise I'll have a go at reclaiming my levy money on the grounds that I paid for a service but did not receive any / they spaffed the money on fancy meals out and gave the rest to an organisation we all hate.

Compulsory levy that provides *zero* benefit. Bet they have had £20k of my money in my short period of farming.

 

[warksfarmer]

That's one bit of discussion per £1m!

Under freedom of information, I think you asked them for correspondence from AIC, NFU, RT??? Did they ever provide it?

 

[Grass And Grain]

So you've got the letter from the AHDB Cereals chairman to AFS, and some communication between Martin GS and RT?

What did it say? Anything interesting?

 

[Chris F]

The AHDB are as corrupt as RT and AIC and are hiding behind silence. When the cereals vote comes in AHDB are finished like the potato and horticulture sector of the setup.

Can't say I agree with the last bit regarding corruption. There are lots and lots of good people there.

But as an organisation they are paralyzed by inaction. Over the last 7 years I have heard multiple time they "are in a period of change", but the reality is nothing changes. And change is required. They do lots of good, but are they value for money? Do they do a good enough job of communicating with farmers?

Fixes required and they need to happen quickly. But I think Tim has got this message loud and clear.

 

[warksfarmer]

So you've got the letter from the AHDB Cereals chairman to AFS, and some communication between Martin GS and RT?

What did it say? Anything interesting?

Basically nothing but it won’t let me post them as it’s a funny attachment. I’m sending them to Chris and we’ll put them on the private thread.

 

[tullah]

Yes. AHDB are up to their eyes in it and all colluding together.
On the bright side , thieves always fall out amongst themselves.

 

[Clive]

Anyone in doubt of collusion between AHDB, NFU, and Red Tractor should do a freedom of information request asking for emails sent by AHDB staff over the last 12 months on the Red Tractor subject, can't legally publish the email but anyone can request their own copy ! ....... I strongly urge all levy payers to do so

A TFF member has done this and the content of these emails will boil your blood !

Everything feared is right there in black and white, More resignations are required I think !

@AM_Arable there is a big story here if you want to tell a reporter to get in touch - this rats nest needs exposing

 

[tepapa]

Anyone in doubt of collusion between AHDB, NFU, and Red Tractor should do a freedom of information request asking for emails sent by AHDB staff over the last 12 months on the Red Tractor subject, cnat legally publish the email but anyone can request their own copy ! ....... I strongly urge all levy payers to do so

A TFF member has done this and the content of these emails will boil your blood !

Everything feared is right there in black and white, More resignations are required I think !

@AM_Arable there is a big story here if you want to tell a reporter to get in touch - this rats nest needs exposing

Do AHDB have any future after the contents are exposed?

 

[carbonfibre farmer]

@Grass And Grain How did your meeting go? Did you have to sign a none disclosure agreement....?
I'm sure you received fine words and platitudes .......

But did they ACTUALLY take a blind bit of notice?