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Gong Farmer

Member
BASIS
Location
S E Glos
We have a robin keeps getting in the duck run. Easier to shoot the robin I suppose

(Only kidding)
I can't see how to embed an ITV hub video here but i'm at 50 seconds in and despite the seriousness of the topic, if that TFF promotion doesn't get me a couple more mugs I don't know what will?! @Clive @Sleepy

http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/update/2016-12-07/bird-flu-farmers-told-to-keep-poultry-indoors/

Blink and you'll miss it.

Never mind Strictly - the next Poldark more like ;)
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
You are sooo right. I have had to do this before. My young Welsummer pullets developed the egg eating habit from being crowded together (stress) and wrong type pf housing. They never got over it.
That's a shame. Welsummers are usually very well behaved. Rollaways would have solved it. I do like my Welsummers, probably my favorite breed if it came down to it.
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Spent all day at Banham zoo in the middle of East Anglia with Grandson. Lots of waterfowl there but no apparent housing, not sure how they interpret rules.
Feel very sorry for all of you with poultry to coop up
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Looks like Wales is in it now.

Our chucks are not going to be happy.(n):poop:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-38234292

Could someone explain why our 4 chucks wandering round the garden are more of a disease risk than the 2-300 wild geese that are wandering round my grass fields around the lakes, and flitting in & out to other areas as they please?:scratchhead:
My chucks are only (potentially) going to catch it from those wild birds, and will only come into contact with those same wild birds (not that there is any direct contact). The wild birds that might bring it in, will be the same ones that might spread it elsewhere, my chucks won't.

Confused as to the logic behind the disease control measures TBH, when it doesn't address the wildlife vector (sound familiar to another disease/species?:rolleyes:).
 

Sonoftheheir

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
West Suffolk
Could someone explain why our 4 chucks wandering round the garden are more of a disease risk than the 2-300 wild geese that are wandering round my grass fields around the lakes, and flitting in & out to other areas as they please?:scratchhead:
My chucks are only (potentially) going to catch it from those wild birds, and will only come into contact with those same wild birds (not that there is any direct contact). The wild birds that might bring it in, will be the same ones that might spread it elsewhere, my chucks won't.

Confused as to the logic behind the disease control measures TBH, when it doesn't address the wildlife vector (sound familiar to another disease/species?:rolleyes:).

Well it's impossible to put all the wild birds indoors isn't it.
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
Could someone explain why our 4 chucks wandering round the garden are more of a disease risk than the 2-300 wild geese that are wandering round my grass fields around the lakes, and flitting in & out to other areas as they please?:scratchhead:
My chucks are only (potentially) going to catch it from those wild birds, and will only come into contact with those same wild birds (not that there is any direct contact). The wild birds that might bring it in, will be the same ones that might spread it elsewhere, my chucks won't.

Confused as to the logic behind the disease control measures TBH, when it doesn't address the wildlife vector (sound familiar to another disease/species?:rolleyes:).
I am not what you could call a commercial poultry unit so it wouldn't hit me hard if i had to cull them, I would be a bit on edge to say the least if I was into it on any scale.
My feelings are that good hygiene would be a better route rather than keeping them indoors. (I am talking more about small flocks rather than big units). Disinfect your wellies after being in the chicken run and before leaving your holding/house etc. If it is on your premises it is bad enough, spreading it elsewhere would be the worst wouldn't it?
There are all sorts of scenarios on how people could spread it but i reckon a foot dip at the gate to my goose field (and use it!) would be a better measure than trying to keep them housed. Would be the same if I had a field of hens within reason.
It is out there and it is coming I reckon. Limiting the spread within the commercial flocks is the big issue.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Well it's impossible to put all the wild birds indoors isn't it.

I appreciate that, but I'm still wanting to understand how housing my 4 chucks (isolated from anything but the odd wild bird stealing food) is going to make any difference whatsoever, when the vastly bigger numbers of wild birds are potentially carrying disease all over the shop.:scratchhead:
 

Sonoftheheir

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
West Suffolk
I appreciate that, but I'm still wanting to understand how housing my 4 chucks (isolated from anything but the odd wild bird stealing food) is going to make any difference whatsoever, when the vastly bigger numbers of wild birds are potentially carrying disease all over the shop.:scratchhead:

Yep sorry I was being flippant, a field down the road is covered in swans I'm not sure where they came from? But they only turned up last week. There's 100's of them.

I have had a flock of starlings nicking all my duck food these past few weeks too. I can see how it could get to my 4 ducks but like you say how could it then get to Daniels 40,000 birds across the two fields between us? (While his are inside)

I guess if mine got it outside and other wild birds got infected from them then they could fly Daniels way?
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
If you read all the links that have been posted you will find it, but it definitely says in there somewhere that free range can still be called free range during this protection measure.
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
I appreciate that, but I'm still wanting to understand how housing my 4 chucks (isolated from anything but the odd wild bird stealing food) is going to make any difference whatsoever, when the vastly bigger numbers of wild birds are potentially carrying disease all over the shop.:scratchhead:

I wonder whether it's more about public perception in the run up to the poultry highlight of the year - CHRISTMAS!

Imagine the upset if the media persuaded the public that turkey was dangerous to eat...or goose...or duck!

But the public are never going to put two and two together about wild birds, as you never see them in supermarkets!!

Perhaps I'm just too cynical....
 

Old Boar

Member
Location
West Wales
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Blink and you'll miss it.

Not on my broadband - you were on for nearly a minute, plenty of time to admire the TFF bodywarmer! Well done, giving your time when you must be up to your eyes in it!

I took down the overhead netting in the chicken pen last week as it was full of leaves - I use stuff for fruit cages - so guess what I will have to do tomorrow....:(
 

Grassman

Member
Location
Derbyshire
I can't see how to embed an ITV hub video here but i'm at 50 seconds in and despite the seriousness of the topic, if that TFF promotion doesn't get me a couple more mugs I don't know what will?! @Clive @Sleepy

http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/update/2016-12-07/bird-flu-farmers-told-to-keep-poultry-indoors/

Blink and you'll miss it.
Fame at last!
However I think you could of turned slightly to get TFF emblem in at a better angle. And you never mentioned the forum?
So it may only be one mug for this performance ! :D
 

llamedos

New Member
I can't see how to embed an ITV hub video here but i'm at 50 seconds in and despite the seriousness of the topic, if that TFF promotion doesn't get me a couple more mugs I don't know what will?! @Clive @Sleepy

http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/update/2016-12-07/bird-flu-farmers-told-to-keep-poultry-indoors/

Blink and you'll miss it.

Think that deserves a couple more mugs @B&B Pig Man

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