Bale Wrap

[Clever Dic]

Just done the deal on two full lorry loads.
£52 a roll. Proper film and two diffrent manufacturers. Not as bad as it could have been.

 

[Henarar]

I've never sold a round bale in my life for 12 quid. My cost of production would be somewhere around 30/bale if I was baling them in rounds so I guess it's a good job too.

I have given plenty of sh!t bales away for free though and I've also sold plenty of the equivalent of round bales for well over 100 quid each.

sold them for 8 quid before now but I have been doing the job longer than you they want to be 15 quid really but much more than that and there is nart in feeding them, seen some sold at 5 quid this year

 

[Bossfarmer]

I've never sold a round bale in my life for 12 quid. My cost of production would be somewhere around 30/bale if I was baling them in rounds so I guess it's a good job too.

I have given plenty of sh!t bales away for free though and I've also sold plenty of the equivalent of round bales for well over 100 quid each.

how is it possible to cost £30/bale to make? ferts only £56/acre and wrap £2 a bale

 

[Henarar]

how is it possible to cost £30/bale to make? ferts only £56/acre and wrap £2 a bale

every bale he makes has a free £20 note in it

 

[7610 super q]

sometimes you just have to cut your loss and forget about it

True....but after 3 years on the trot, you wonder the wisdom of carrying on with the job. There's always someone, somewhere, flogging stuff off at silly prices. I think some just treat fodder making as a hobby.

 

[balerman]

how is it possible to cost £30/bale to make? ferts only £56/acre and wrap £2 a bale

Its a completely different market,top quality equine use.Plenty of costs you haven't included too,wrap is more like £4/bale for8/10 layers,rent,labour,machinery and reseeding every 2-3 years as well.If all your machinery costs have to be paid from haylage production it doesn't look qute so lucrative.

 

[Henarar]

True....but after 3 years on the trot, you wonder the wisdom of carrying on with the job. There's always someone, somewhere, flogging stuff off at silly prices. I think some just treat fodder making as a hobby.

always a job to know what next year will bring, but I can't see it being worth a fortune around here next winter unless something drastic happens there seems to be plenty about and the grass is growing
anyway lets put the fert on and grow some more

 

[Henarar]

,top quality equine use

I picked up a lump of that sort of stuff in those little bags and chucked it at the cattle they wouldn't eat it

 

[slackjawedyokel]

I picked up a lump of that sort of stuff in those little bags and chucked it at the cattle they wouldn't eat it

Wow you must have picky cattle. I think our sucklers would eat basically anything you put in front of them, whether they were hungry or not.

 

[Henarar]

Wow you must have picky cattle. I think our sucklers would eat basically anything you put in front of them, whether they were hungry or not.

well they wouldn't eat that stuff
I use to supply some horsey folk with "haylage" before that they were giving 5 quid for a little bale, I put round bales in there for 15 quid they were worried the nig nags wouldn't eat it fast enough I told them that as long as they ate 20% they could put the rest on the sh!t heap and still be better of, they ate the lot and it was better stuff

 

[Bullring]

Why would you need to ted out 3 times surely once is enough

Depends on the DM you want, surly if you only ted it once you wouldn't get more than about 30% dm and that I class as silage, I'm talking about making it at end of may / 1st week of June when there's still life in it not in late June/ July when its dead stalks and it has no feed value. Even when I ted it 3 times the dm is around 55-60% so some wouldn't even class that as haylage.

 

[Grassman]

how is it possible to cost £30/bale to make? ferts only £56/acre and wrap £2 a bale

You forget rent, insurance, hedge cutting, liming, reseeding, office, telephone, other vehicles, cups of coffee and a list as long as your arm and all those costs have to come out of that wrapped bale. Plus warranty if there is a bad bale.
And then you get some crops spoilt by weather or other things.
It's not as wonderful as it sounds.

 

[bobk]

You forget rent, insurance, hedge cutting, liming, reseeding, office, telephone, other vehicles, cups of coffee and a list as long as your arm and all those costs have to come out of that wrapped bale. Plus warranty if there is a bad bale.
And then you get some crops spoilt by weather or other things.
It's not as wonderful as it sounds.

All credit to @Sleepy supplying top end customers , he must have a good product .

I'm happy supplying the bottom feeders ... they never complain

 

[sleepy]

All credit to @Sleepy supplying top end customers , he must have a good product .

I'm happy supplying the bottom feeders ... they never complain

I produce plenty of crap only suitable for the bottom feeders too, especially with the weather last year

 

[Bossfarmer]

You forget rent, insurance, hedge cutting, liming, reseeding, office, telephone, other vehicles, cups of coffee and a list as long as your arm and all those costs have to come out of that wrapped bale. Plus warranty if there is a bad bale.
And then you get some crops spoilt by weather or other things.
It's not as wonderful as it sounds.

Strange because ive got most of those costs whether i grow silage or not

 

[Grassman]

Strange because ive got most of those costs whether i grow silage or not

And they have to be paid for by the end product you produce. You don't produce forage to sell obviosly.

(And i didn't mention another £15 an acre for spraying!)

 

[Bossfarmer]

And they have to be paid for by the end product you produce. You don't produce forage to sell obviosly.

(And i didn't mention another £15 an acre for spraying!)

no just for sucklers still sell some though if ive too much, got 17 bale to the acre last year and sold 120 bale so far at £15/bale

 

[PostHarvest]

top quality equine use

I've found the same. Quality horse hay - my cattle won't touch the horrible stemmy stuff.

 

[Grassman]

no just for sucklers still sell some though if ive too much, got 17 bale to the acre last year and sold 120 bale so far at £15/bale

That's good going. £255 an acre for silage which I'm can only assume is relatively low feed value, bulky grass.

 

[Bossfarmer]

That's good going. £255 an acre for silage which I'm can only assume is relatively low feed value, bulky grass.

very bulky we do one big cut here and then graze the aftermaths