Band castrating 4 to 5 month old bulls

[marco]

Is anyone here successfully doing this? Any issues with clostridium or other calf issues? Always used the burdizzo here but looking for other options. Vet mentioned the band's so wanted to see if anyone has practical experience.

 

[Sharpy]

Pretty sure its illegal over a week old, assuming you mean the standard rubber rings. Could the vet have meant next year do them when they are young to save the cutting job later?

 

[egbert]

Is anyone here successfully doing this? Any issues with clostridium or other calf issues? Always used the burdizzo here but looking for other options. Vet mentioned the band's so wanted to see if anyone has practical experience.

Very much banned here.
It'd be brutal on em at that age.

I've once seen someone -could've been out of the UK mind- do what you're suggesting, and it is not pretty.

Get the vet to cut em.

 

[AftonShepherd]

Even if it wasn't banned I think you'd struggle to get both balls through a standard ring at that age!

 

[marco]

That's what I was thinking, how soon after birth can you do the normal rings?

 

[Blaithin]

You use different bands on those size calves. Callicrate banders work good, also heard good things about the California bander.

Generally done with a nerve block and NSAID and tetanus shot.

Can’t see it being that illegal if the vet is suggesting it. Probably just need to use the proper protocol. Unless they’re saying band at birth instead of waiting until 4-5 months.

 

[Tubbylew]

For your viewing pleasure

 

[primmiemoo]

That's what I was thinking, how soon after birth can you do the normal rings?

Maybe double check with the vet?

Up to 7 days old for ordinary elastrator bands. No later.

 

[Tubbylew]

Never mind the bird pd'in a few cows, how'd you like that job.

 

[Blaithin]

Never mind the bird pd'in a few cows, how'd you like that job.

Band bruises your hand after doing a few dozen.

 

[Tubbylew]

Band bruises your hand after doing a few dozen.

To be fair, i'd be more concerned about grabbing a bull by the balls with my head in the firing line, although I've only dealt with lims, so maybe a kick in the head would do me good.

 

[Blaithin]

To be fair, i'd be more concerned about grabbing a bull by the balls with my head in the firing line, although I've only dealt with lims, so maybe a kick in the head would do me good.

They don’t usually kick high, especially if they’re tail jacked.

More sketchy cutting them because those tiny hops can still send a scalpel quite deep into various body parts.

 

[M-J-G]

That's what I was thinking, how soon after birth can you do the normal rings?

I so them as soon as they suck the cow.

 

[betweenthelines]

For your viewing pleasure

Another reason to ban beef imports from the USA

 

[RushesToo]

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That is difficult to comprehend.
Deliberately and knowlingly inflicting pain on an an animal and asking a human to do it - time and time again.
Sorry that needs to be in the WTF thread.

 

[johnspeehs]

Is anyone here successfully doing this? Any issues with clostridium or other calf issues? Always used the burdizzo here but looking for other options. Vet mentioned the band's so wanted to see if anyone has practical experience.

Saw a batch my brother did , a mess like you couldn't believe, mind you it might just have been the way he put them on, not that sharp around stock