barley beef need some advice

[Northeastfarmer]

My limmi Bulls never get past 9kg, ad lib. For fibre they get hay rather than straw as that is what we have spare. Maybe the reason?

Bulls should eat less than bullocks due to their better conversion rates

 

[Case290]

Who knows what fatting beef cattle need my ration is just not cutting it.
This is about the mix
Wheat / barley 30/70 %. 750 kg
Soya / beet nut mixed 50/50 % 150kg
Molasis 50 kg
Minerals 12-15 kg/ t
Any help/ advice on improving this mix don’t really want to by anything else if poss as only fatting 10-15 at the min.

 

[Beef farmer]

Why is it not cutting it? Cattle housed? Age? Breed? Weight?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Who knows what fatting beef cattle need my ration is just not cutting it.
This is about the mix
Wheat / barley 30/70 %. 750 kg
Soya / beet nut mixed 50/50 % 150kg
Molasis 50 kg
Minerals 12-15 kg/ t
Any help/ advice on improving this mix don’t really want to by anything else if poss as only fatting 10-15 at the min.

Nothing wrong with that mix.

 

[Case290]

17mts steers / Heifers housed . Haylage As buffer feed. concentrates so they just clear it each 2xday

 

[Northeastfarmer]

17mts steers / Heifers housed . Haylage As buffer feed. concentrates so they just clear it each 2xday

Get them on ad lib

 

[Beef farmer]

So 8kgs in 2x 4 kg splits? Breed? Why you not think its working? How long have they been housed? Take 3 weeks to settle before any noticable gain

 

[Northeastfarmer]

When were they last wormed...

 

[Beef farmer]

How much feed did they have at pasture? Did they slip back more than you thought due to the dry weather? As above, with the rain in aug our heifers worm count exploded

 

[Case290]

calves to 6mts ad-lib to kick them on, then bag feed as they eat so much then upped feed last 4 mts to finish but still feeding away . Think add lib from tomorrow.

 

[Beef farmer]

Well over the next 10 days....

 

[Northeastfarmer]

calves to 6mts ad-lib to kick them on, then bag feed as they eat so much then upped feed last 4 mts to finish but still feeding away . Think add lib from tomorrow.

Don’t ad lib them straight away or you’ll knock them back another week

 

[Case290]

I will send a sample off to check for worms tho . They’ve never been wormed they have never been out. Hadn’t crossed my mind worth checking. Yes will give them a extra feed mid day for couple of days

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I will send a sample off to check for worms tho . They’ve never been wormed they have never been out. Hadn’t crossed my mind worth checking. Yes will give them a extra feed mid day for couple of days

They won’t need worming If theybe never been out

 

[Plain steer]

If they,ve never been out they will of gone stale, usually find cattle do better on feed when they,ve spent time at grass

 

[pine_guy]

Who knows what fatting beef cattle need my ration is just not cutting it.
This is about the mix
Wheat / barley 30/70 %. 750 kg
Soya / beet nut mixed 50/50 % 150kg
Molasis 50 kg
Minerals 12-15 kg/ t
Any help/ advice on improving this mix don’t really want to by anything else if poss as only fatting 10-15 at the min.

What is the bushel weight of the barkey/wheat?

I which way are they not performing? Gaining weight or finishing condition?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

As anyone ever added water to dry grain crimped and esilled it . Would this improve the digestabilty .

 

[gone up the hill]

If they,ve never been out they will of gone stale, usually find cattle do better on feed when they,ve spent time at grass

If on ad lib at such a young age he has overcooked them and their rumen will not be correct, I have seen it before, also not helping the situation is the fact he doesn't seem to be giving them a rumen buffer like Bi carb for example.

 

[Plain steer]

If on ad lib at such a young age he has overcooked them and their rumen will not be correct, I have seen it before, also not helping the situation is the fact he doesn't seem to be giving them a rumen buffer like Bi carb for example.

I find that hard,cold cattle will put on at least kilo and a half a day once on feed but soft hard fed young ones will do little over a kilo a day

 

[Drillman]

If on ad lib at such a young age he has overcooked them and their rumen will not be correct, I have seen it before, also not helping the situation is the fact he doesn't seem to be giving them a rumen buffer like Bi carb for example.

This bicarb, how is it incorporated into the diet and in what quantities?

and in what way does it prevent foot trouble? i assume you mean helps prevent lameness?

cheers