Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[Anymulewilldo]

I’m always amazed when other people in the same job ask me what trades doing because they have no fecking idea!! How they produce something an don’t know what the price is doing for their product just bewilders me!
My local auctioneer been on phone tonight to talk trade an see what I’m up to/ what I’ve got, an yes he’s rang before now an said don’t bring them the jobs over done! I suppose it’s all about the relationship you have with your auctioneer!!

I’ve given Auctioneers severe bollockings before now for not warning me the trade was overdone!
Every week I get calls from at least 1, plus several texts. Even just as simple as “don’t bring lambs, bring ewes” or vice versa. Or “ewes cheap, want a few?” When we get into my main selling season daily updates start. Usually vying for the wagon that week over the other.

 

[spin cycle]

I may have been helped by following a pen of what I presumed were Swiss Valais crosses..
Very tall, narrow overweight sheep with open coats, backbones sticking up proud and wobbly fat. Marvellous specimens.

bugger that was my next maternal x idea

joking apart i sometimes wonder if it's moral breeding stuff like that.....i mean you see soay rams in mart and someone somewhere is raving about 'conservation grazing' then they dump them in mart

 

[hill farmer]

We don't ring our local auctioneers but they do send out a txt day before sale saying what trade to expect and whether numbers are wanted

 

[Al R]

Trade a bit better in Welshpool this morning, as well as the weighbridge working properly.

Pen of 7 was Exlana & their crosses, the rest Charollais X. Another draw next week, then grass will be about done f

To be fair to the Exlanas they handle ok over their loins (for a maternal), although lacking of hindquarter.

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£6.76 in deductions
£3.83 DW.
Good weight in those lambs though!

 

[Al R]

I may have been helped by following a pen of what I presumed were Swiss Valais crosses..
Very tall, narrow overweight sheep with open coats, backbones sticking up proud and wobbly fat. Marvellous specimens.

Was it a Rough Fell? The only ones I’ve ever seen at shows wear like a Holstein x Highland

 

[livestock 1]

Why would you ring up for fat lamb trade? We all know what the trade is nationally at any time now, and I can’t think of any auctioneer that would say not to bring them in tbh.
I’m not sure I’d ask most auctioneers what the time was, without having a watch to check if it was right.

Now you aren’t going to try and tell everyone on here you have a crystal ball are you??
Crikey

 

[Anymulewilldo]

We don't ring our local auctioneers but they do send out a txt day before sale saying what trade to expect and whether numbers are wanted

I’d have thought that’s much more useful than looking at the AHDB website. As we all know, statistics can be manipulated too say whatever you want!

 

[Anymulewilldo]

Was it a Rough Fell? The only ones I’ve ever seen at shows wear like a Holstein x Highland

No, not having that!!! Nothing much wrong with a GOOD Rough Fell. Breeds a belting mule, crops heavy. And with the right tup you can get rid of that bleddy horrible course wool!

 

[livestock 1]

Yes , There’s a little website called AHDB you can check dw prices for the week and go off that, imaging Ruthin Farmers ringing all the sellers!

Jesus Nooooo

 

[Al R]

No, not having that!!! Nothing much wrong with a GOOD Rough Fell. Breeds a belting mule, crops heavy. And with the right tup you can get rid of that bleddy horrible course wool!

The pair I saw in a show once in 2017? They were colossal! Bigger than any BFL and Border Leicester I’d ever seen yet would have graded under 1’s…

 

[Anymulewilldo]

I’m not sure I’d ask most auctioneers what the time was, without having a watch to check if it was right.

You must be a very nice polite person @neilo try shouting at them a bit more. Remember, they work for us! And I can think of a few not far from here who need reminding of that every 5 minutes and as such I don’t feel deserve our trade!

 

[neilo]

Now you aren’t going to try and tell everyone on here you have a crystal ball are you??
Crikey

Of course not, but I would take most auctioneers’ advice with a pinch of salt, especially that given to us pawns/smaller producers.
They’d be blithering idiots not to look after the larger producers better, especially those that might drop a few thousand finished hoggs in to pay them a fiver a head, or a few hundred cattle.

Does any auctioneer’s opinion of where the trade might be have much bearing, when the buyers have breakfast together, split the pens between them, and everything changes when their phones start ringing part way through the sale?
A good auctioneer might work hard, but he can’t change what the trade is doing nationally.

 

[Anymulewilldo]

The pair I saw in a show once in 2017? They were colossal! Bigger than any BFL and Border Leicester I’d ever seen yet would have graded under 1’s…

Show sheep vs commercial sheep again isn’t it. Bloody shows and breed society’s should all be banned. Let the finished market dictate, not “pretty faces and fancy horns”

 

[livestock 1]

Of course not, but I would take most auctioneers’ advice with a pinch of salt, especially that given to us pawns/smaller producers.
They’d be blithering idiots not to look after the larger producers better, especially those that might drop a few thousand finished hoggs in to pay them a fiver a head, or a few hundred cattle.

Does any auctioneer’s opinion of where the trade might be have much bearing, when the buyers have breakfast together, split the pens between them, and everything changes when their phones start ringing part way through the sale?
A good auctioneer might work hard, but he can’t change what the trade is doing nationally.

You must have had bad experience with auctioneers. If they know they are going to get the stock off you at some point then why the hell would they persuade you to bring them on a bad week? They have orders and they have sellers their job is to match the two best they can. Any smaller producer that sends sheep regularly for many years is worth having, that’s what makes an auction.
Anyone suggesting looking at ahdb carry on needs to get out more

 

[BELOWAVERAGE]

You must have had bad experience with auctioneers. If they know they are going to get the stock off you at some point then why the hell would they persuade you to bring them on a bad week? They have orders and they have sellers their job is to match the two best they can. Any smaller producer that sends sheep regularly for many years is worth having, that’s what makes an auction.
Anyone suggesting looking at ahdb carry on needs to get out more

Do you wear blinkers ?

 

[Anymulewilldo]

Do you wear blinkers ?

More like tunnel vision… it’s the oxygen deficiency in his blood from farming the highest ground south of Ben Nevis

 

[livestock 1]

Do you wear blinkers ?

I would think buyers orders are more important than looking at yesterday’s paper but feel free to carry on

 

[gwi1890]

You must have had bad experience with auctioneers. If they know they are going to get the stock off you at some point then why the hell would they persuade you to bring them on a bad week? They have orders and they have sellers their job is to match the two best they can. Any smaller producer that sends sheep regularly for many years is worth having, that’s what makes an auction.
Anyone suggesting looking at ahdb carry on needs to get out more

By any chance your local auctioneer is Mother Teresa? They well and truly sound amazing

 

[livestock 1]

By any chance your local auctioneer is Mother Teresa? They well and truly sound amazing

Haha they all are didn’t you know??

 

[neilo]

You must have had bad experience with auctioneers. If they know they are going to get the stock off you at some point then why the hell would they persuade you to bring them on a bad week? They have orders and they have sellers their job is to match the two best they can. Any smaller producer that sends sheep regularly for many years is worth having, that’s what makes an auction.
Anyone suggesting looking at ahdb carry on needs to get out more

AHDB (& HCC) purely compile average prices from mart reports. What’s not to like about that? I get an HCC text every night, giving me the sqq average over all markets that day. I’ll take that over any fictitious nonsense from an auctioneer.

I’d take their annual predictions of trade with more of a pinch of salt of course.