Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

Full of bull(s)

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North Yorkshire
I guess they are trying to slow down sales so they can then use that as an excuse to drop the deadweight price.

I don't buy that. It's about carcass mix, you put the price up of cuts that are selling better to compensate for having to drop the price of others to keep them moving. Fresh meat is obviously a perishable product and they have to keep it moving off the shelf while still in date. The steak will be subsidising something else
 
Location
Devon
I don't buy that. It's about carcass mix, you put the price up of cuts that are selling better to compensate for having to drop the price of others to keep them moving. Fresh meat is obviously a perishable product and they have to keep it moving off the shelf while still in date. The steak will be subsidising something else

No if sales are low on some cuts you drop the price of them to encourage sales, you don't put up the price of the cuts that are selling to compensate as if you do that all you will do is turn people away from buying those cuts and instead they will buy other cheaper meats like chicken etc and then beef sales will fall even further.
 

Full of bull(s)

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North Yorkshire
No if sales are low on some cuts you drop the price of them to encourage sales, you don't put up the price of the cuts that are selling to compensate as if you do that all you will do is turn people away from buying those cuts and instead they will buy other cheaper meats like chicken etc and then beef sales will fall even further.

FFS.Well if all you did was keep cutting the price of every cut that was a bit slow without increasing the price somewhere else you'd soon be giving the lot away and cattle would be £1.80 dead like back in 2000. Finished prices won't rise even if they sell double volumes if it is all sold at half price. If they pay £1200 for a steer it has to come to that plus costs plus margin regardless.
 
Location
Devon
FFS.Well if all you did was keep cutting the price of every cut that was a bit slow without increasing the price somewhere else you'd soon be giving the lot away and cattle would be £1.80 dead like back in 2000. Finished prices won't rise even if they sell double volumes if it is all sold at half price. If they pay £1200 for a steer it has to come to that plus costs plus margin regardless.

IF you want to carry on and destroy beef sales completely then carry on down your road.

But lower sales on the shelf = lower demand for beef which = lower prices to farmers.
 

Full of bull(s)

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North Yorkshire
Carsass balancing is oneof the fundamentals of meat wholesaling and if you can't grasp that my friend perhaps you're in no position to comment on it. The vertical integration model in Woodheads means the retail level has to take this into consideration unlike the others with contracts with the Irish firms. They just tell them there is a promotion or cancel orders without notice leaving the processor to carry the can which in turn leads to these firms slashing prices without notice and seemingly without good reason. And why? Because they have to dispose of cancelled orders of large volumes of cuts that aren't selling well to anybody and therefore can't balance the carcass because they aren't in a position to compensate by increasing other cuts already contracted at a fixed price to the same supermarket. The grass isn't always greener unlike the beef sat unsold in the fridge
 

dunk999

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Can anyone explain the reason for hoggs deciding to rise the week after I have put the last of mine away again? Numbers don't look like they have dramatically shifted either!!
 

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