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[Aspiring Peasants]

Apart from urban fringe land, I don't see how arable farmers can survive without cashing in on the sheep boom.

I think it’s far from a boom, just getting a bit nearer to where it needs to be at the moment. I should think most sheep farmers will have sold most of their lamb crop by now so won’t have benefitted anyway.

 

[andybk]

What were the wynnstay totes quote for?

the lamb blend from tamar milling

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I think it’s far from a boom, just getting a bit nearer to where it needs to be at the moment. I should think most sheep farmers will have sold most of their lamb crop by now so won’t have benefitted anyway.

I haven’t sold one lamb yet….im still waiting for it to dry up enough to even be bothered getting them in!

 

[Hilly]

Apart from urban fringe land, I don't see how arable farmers can survive without cashing in on the sheep boom.

Local ground works contractor offering £30hr to drive machines if have tickets oh and a company pickup …… better than starting in sheep as by the time a flock is built up they will Have. Crashed

 

[Devil's advocate]

You would need to know something about it first
If you knew something about it you would know that you couldn’t successfully breed Swaledales on arable land even if you wanted to but that’s not for me to be saying it
You will be telling us you are going to be buying a suckler herd next and sitting up all night calving cows
All for the love of £200 on a store beast and 35p a kilo on a fat hogg
Crikey things must be bad
It’s hard work you know
I bet it’s even harder work when you aren’t used to doing it

Mmmmm sheep not any harder than throwing small bales around or harvesting veg. Shearing is a hard day.

I do keep sheep all ready have done for 40 years, small breeding flock Llyen x Charollais put to Beltex tups, self replacing flock.

I'm too old to invest in housing for sucklers, otherwise they look attractive too, I grew up with cattle so know how to look after them, we had Hereford or Angus x Fresian put to Blonde bull.

No way I would want to keep swales, neighbour seems to cope ok with them, in fact paid £73,000 for a tup so he must be keen & £59K for a tup lamb. He is on harder land than me.

 

[Hilly]

Mmmmm sheep not any harder than throwing small bales around or harvesting veg. Shearing is a hard day.

I do keep sheep all ready have done for 40 years, small breeding flock Llyen x Charollais put to Beltex tups, self replacing flock.

No way I would want to keep swales, neighbour seems to cope ok with them, in fact paid £73,000 for a tup so he must be keen & £59K for a tup lamb. He is on harder land than me.

I wouldnt have s swale in a gift but i do know a man who keeps 4000 rather successfully funnily enough on an ex arable farm so it can be done easily enough .

 

[Devil's advocate]

I wouldnt have s swale in a gift but i do know a man who keeps 4000 rather successfully funnily enough on an ex arable farm so it can be done easily enough .

Yes easier to keep swales on the Wolds than keep pure Suffolks than on a hill above Shap.

Having said that some on proper hill land keep 3/4 Texels put to Beltex, they just feed them a lot of creep & ewe nuts.

 

[Alias]

Mmmmm sheep not any harder than throwing small bales around or harvesting veg. Shearing is a hard day.

I do keep sheep all ready have done for 40 years, small breeding flock Llyen x Charollais put to Beltex tups, self replacing flock.

I'm too old to invest in housing for sucklers, otherwise they look attractive too, I grew up with cattle so know how to look after them, we had Hereford or Angus x Fresian put to Blonde bull.

No way I would want to keep swales, neighbour seems to cope ok with them, in fact paid £73,000 for a tup so he must be keen & £59K for a tup lamb. He is on harder land than me.

I think that picking veg in a field in the middle of winter is about as miserable and depressing as you can get. I would rather be stacking supermarket shelves never mind keeping sheep. You deserve all you can get for that.

 

[livestock 1]

That arable farm has 6000 not 4000 and is 90% fell

 

[livestock 1]

Mmmmm sheep not any harder than throwing small bales around or harvesting veg. Shearing is a hard day.

I do keep sheep all ready have done for 40 years, small breeding flock Llyen x Charollais put to Beltex tups, self replacing flock.

I'm too old to invest in housing for sucklers, otherwise they look attractive too, I grew up with cattle so know how to look after them, we had Hereford or Angus x Fresian put to Blonde bull.

No way I would want to keep swales, neighbour seems to cope ok with them, in fact paid £73,000 for a tup so he must be keen & £59K for a tup lamb. He is on harder land than me.

Sheep aren’t easy a lot of folks won’t keep them because there’s no way to totally automate the labour side of things that goes into them. I think for that reason there’s a real unlikelihood that there will be a big push from arable to sheep.
The national flock figures are dropping and have been for some time they are the lowest they’ve been for a while that would suggest the returns haven’t been exciting.
Those big money tup prices always make the papers and the news that’s more like the magic circle it doesn’t really represent the vast majority of commercial outfits. I’m not sure it does a lot of good in some ways. Back in the real world Swale store hoggs averaged £60 at Bentham a week or two ago during the record price period. Still doesn’t sound a lot in January does it

 

[Devil's advocate]

I think that picking veg in a field in the middle of winter is about as miserable and depressing as you can get. I would rather be stacking supermarket shelves never mind keeping sheep. You deserve all you can get for that.

Oddly enougth, I enjoy the veg harvesting, restoring drystone walls & lambing sheep too.

£30 an hour for driving plant machinery is superb money, especially a job like clearing a dyke. But it must be soul less using a pecker all day on an old concrete site. I've seen them doing it too pecking away for a week, then moving rubble to one end of the site & then moving it back again. Not to mention the effects on health, sat in maisonary dust without exercise.

 

[Devil's advocate]

Sheep aren’t easy a lot of folks won’t keep them because there’s no way to totally automate the labour side of things that goes into them. I think for that reason there’s a real unlikelihood that there will be a big push from arable to sheep.
The national flock figures are dropping and have been for some time they are the lowest they’ve been for a while that would suggest the returns haven’t been exciting.
Those big money tup prices always make the papers and the news that’s more like the magic circle it doesn’t really represent the vast majority of commercial outfits. I’m not sure it does a lot of good in some ways. Back in the real world Swale store hoggs averaged £60 at Bentham a week or two ago during the record price period. Still doesn’t sound a lot in January does it

I've no intention of keeping swaledales no point to them on my sort of land. Too expensive fencing them in to start with & then the low value. If that Llyen tup looks at me funny he is going too, his offspring are a bit hard on the walls.

 

[DB67]

I've no intention of keeping swaledales no point to them on my sort of land. Too expensive fencing them in to start with & then the low value. If that Llyen tup looks at me funny he is going too, his offspring are a bit hard on the walls.

The money in Swales on good land is in the mule ewe lamb and wedder away sharp.

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

Sold 2 black heifers I posted a picture of last week, at Barney store cattle sale today. Couple of buyers missing although one apparently was away on holiday. I thought buyers were less keen on smaller longer keep cattle, bigger difference between those and well grown, well fed types that would finish fairly quickly. Cull cows were a strong trade.

There was 1 second calver with 3 month calf at foot, OK outfit but not outstanding, she looked like there wouldn’t be a lot of milk, udder as big as my fist. £3100!

 

[Sierra Lama]

bridgemans £360 , and had quote from forfarmers ,similar , for 3t blown , wynnstay totes were £390

for farmers quote (copy /paste) :

Prices based on 3 tonne bulk
P23053 - Ewbol NS 18 Nut - £325/t
P02423 - Ewbol 19 - £337/t
P02017 - Prestige Lamb £365/t
P02259 - Lamb Creep 16 £340/t
P09612 - Lamb Finisher 16 £350/t

Any opinions on forfarmers ewebol 18Nut? I had a quote today of £339 for 6 Tonne blown in. Would buy 30tonne annually off them during lambing seems my price isn't as competitive, and last year I wasn't overly convinced it had been as good as we had come to expect.

 

[Skintagain]

The money in Swales on good land is in the mule ewe lamb and wedder away sharp.

The fencing does cost a lot though to keep the buggers in

 

[andybk]

Any opinions on forfarmers ewebol 18Nut? I had a quote today of £339 for 6 Tonne blown in. Would buy 30tonne annually off them during lambing seems my price isn't as competitive, and last year I wasn't overly convinced it had been as good as we had come to expect.

we bought ewe feed from bridgemans (MVF) 18% , i bought a few bags of lamb forfarmers prestige for dec lambs and they have done well on them so will prob get 3t blown in . Would go for carrs (with maize) if they are in your area though

 

[Just because]

Kirkby on mart-eye is a good watch

 

[livestock 1]

Any opinions on forfarmers ewebol 18Nut? I had a quote today of £339 for 6 Tonne blown in. Would buy 30tonne annually off them during lambing seems my price isn't as competitive, and last year I wasn't overly convinced it had been as good as we had come to expect.

I wouldn’t buy the 18 it isn’t worth having in my opinion when I looked at what’s in it. Buy the 19 not for the extra 1% but the make up

 

[livestock 1]

Sold 2 black heifers I posted a picture of last week, at Barney store cattle sale today. Couple of buyers missing although one apparently was away on holiday. I thought buyers were less keen on smaller longer keep cattle, bigger difference between those and well grown, well fed types that would finish fairly quickly. Cull cows were a strong trade.

There was 1 second calver with 3 month calf at foot, OK outfit but not outstanding, she looked like there wouldn’t be a lot of milk, udder as big as my fist. £3100!

I think those smaller stores haven’t been that exciting right though. Those better end cattle have been good and quietly gone up the smaller ones have had less of a lift. They are wanting them at 12 o clock almost. Or that looks like the case where I go. I know you had a good sale at the big sale before Christmas they looked a good trade to me when I read the report. I knew of some of the cattle to value them as well