Beet '22

[Flat 10]

My fieldsman was actually quite lukewarm about it. He reckoned if it didn’t work then you didn’t get another chance as by then the weeds would be too big for conventional chemistry. I reckon I’m seeing the same now with Cranesbill as we saw with BG resistance to products like Aramo. 25% killed, 50% half killed and 25% untouched which is classic sign of genetic selection. Cranesbill is one reason that puts me off beet. I can deal with easily in cereals but it’s a pain in beet and more difficult since we lost desmedipham.

I wish we still had Aramo here, it wasn’t finished like c max is

 

[alomy75]

I’ve seen seriously impressive conviso performance locally assuming it’s going to finish off everything it’s coloured up. Obviously it’s not ideal financially but I can’t help thinking it would be good to go in with a pre-em in a conviso situation

It’s good stuff. It’s been priced to be the equivalent of a normal full classical programme…ish…so any extra applications will be quite costly as you say but pre-em probably would be the best idea. The whole point is not only good control but the conviso won’t knock the crop like a normal herbicide programme will.

 

[robbie]

Neighbours grew it last year on a bad weed beet field they'd taken on and it worked and yielded very well another neighbour has some this year and it's working well except for some that have had poor germination.

 

[Flat 10]

It’s good stuff. It’s been priced to be the equivalent of a normal full classical programme…ish…so any extra applications will be quite costly as you say but pre-em probably would be the best idea. The whole point is not only good control but the conviso won’t knock the crop like a normal herbicide programme will.

Pre-em wouldn’t knock beet too much? I can confirm the conviso definitely did knock the crop a bit

 

[alomy75]

Pre-em wouldn’t knock beet too much? I can confirm the conviso definitely did knock the crop a bit

Classical herbicides are just as damaging to conviso beet as standard beet. It’s only the conviso chemical that doesn’t hurt the conviso beet. So normal rules apply if you put normal chemistry on conviso beet. Also I’d DEFINITELY avoid conviso chemical on, or anywhere near normal beet

 

[alomy75]

My fieldsman was actually quite lukewarm about it. He reckoned if it didn’t work then you didn’t get another chance as by then the weeds would be too big for conventional chemistry. I reckon I’m seeing the same now with Cranesbill as we saw with BG resistance to products like Aramo. 25% killed, 50% half killed and 25% untouched which is classic sign of genetic selection. Cranesbill is one reason that puts me off beet. I can deal with easily in cereals but it’s a pain in beet and more difficult since we lost desmedipham.

Just heard back; conviso will ‘smoke’ cranesbill when applied at the proper timing (gs 12-14 from memory)

 

[DrWazzock]

Just heard back; conviso will ‘smoke’ cranesbill when applied at the proper timing (gs 12-14 from memory)

That could work well for us. The problem we have here is we can’t get herbicides on preem or very early due to wind blow tenderising the crop. By the time we get spraying, the cranesbill and some other weeds are too big to control with conventional chemistry. So yes, it looks like the Conviso which is applied later could really work well for us. Something to consider.

 

[robbie]

Run the hoe round a few headlands today.
It should have been done sooner but I was on holiday and really it was too wet today but I needed a tractor fix.

 

[carbonfibre farmer]

Run the hoe round a few headlands today.
It should have been done sooner but I was on holiday and really it was too wet today but I needed a tractor fix.View attachment 1041134View attachment 1041135

I've had to repair our hoe after a little "incident"

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Anyone else noticing the appearance of virus yellows?

 

[Flat 10]

Anyone else noticing the appearance of virus yellows?

Yes!
In non cruiser. 1x insecticide.
You?

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Yes!
In non cruiser. 1x insecticide.
You?

I think we have it in cruiser, haven’t sprayed an insecticide.

 

[Laggard]

Anyone else noticing the appearance of virus yellows?

Unfortunately yes, non cruiser, no insecticide so not surprised really.

 

[robbie]

I'm interested to see how the virus job pans out this year.
I have non cruiser sprayed twice which I didn't like doing but the evidence was there to do it but I have got a a control tramline sprayed once.
I also have a couple of trams which is cruiser as I borrowed some seed and one tram has been sprayed once and another tram hasn't been sprayed so it will be interesting so see how virus affects all these.


Anyone heard anymore about price negotiations????

 

[Flat 10]

I'm interested to see how the virus job pans out this year.
I have non cruiser sprayed twice which I didn't like doing but the evidence was there to do it but I have got a a control tramline sprayed once.
I also have a couple of trams which is cruiser as I borrowed some seed and one tram has been sprayed once and another tram hasn't been sprayed so it will be interesting so see how virus affects all these.


Anyone heard anymore about price negotiations????

Seems like my £40/t rumour was unfounded. Nearer that than £30 though.

 

[Breckland Boy]

Not seen any yellowing yet, just wilting,

although not for much longer.

 

[Daniel]

Seems like my £40/t rumour was unfounded. Nearer that than £30 though.

I’ll take a punt on £37/t with 25% available to ‘bet’ on the sugar markets?

 

[Hindsight]

I'm interested to see how the virus job pans out this year.
I have non cruiser sprayed twice which I didn't like doing but the evidence was there to do it but I have got a a control tramline sprayed once.
I also have a couple of trams which is cruiser as I borrowed some seed and one tram has been sprayed once and another tram hasn't been sprayed so it will be interesting so see how virus affects all these.


Anyone heard anymore about price negotiations????

Local fieldsman saying £36/37

 

[Laggard]

Got a lot of dead nettle? in the beet this year. What chemical would be good on it please?

 

[Laggard]

I'm interested to see how the virus job pans out this year.
I have non cruiser sprayed twice which I didn't like doing but the evidence was there to do it but I have got a a control tramline sprayed once.
I also have a couple of trams which is cruiser as I borrowed some seed and one tram has been sprayed once and another tram hasn't been sprayed so it will be interesting so see how virus affects all.

Sounds like a good trial. Be good to see some photos as the season progresses.