Beet yields 2020

[Goffer]

Considering the caveat of agreeing to an extra years on 3 yr deal it needs to be £27.50 - inflation across the board and shows little sign of abstain

 

[Mixedupfarmer]

Maybe we’re doing something wrong but the NFU deal at our 5yr avg yield (excluding 2020) would give me a profit/ha similar to Spring Beans but with nearly twice as much annual investment and a yield penalty on the following wheat crop.

Unless the price is over £30/t I intend to remove Beet from the rotation on all land where I could grow 2nd wheats without loosing control of BG.

Same here, and have done this year. can't wait to get some wheat in on time, instead on slopping about in freezing mud after beet.

 

[Flat 10]

In high pressure situations in the USA (Red River Dakota) growers use a multi treatment programme (upto 6 or more fortnightly applications) revolving around triazoel, strobilurin, SHDI wit Mancozeb, Tin and Copper multi site fungicides.

Very weather dependent in UK. Last year perfect conditions. I am assuming no two years the same. But time will tell.

New fungicide is BAYER Caligula which contains a SHDI but I understand will not be approved for use on the 2021 crop.

The one i was thinking of was old chemistry i think, active flutriaol or something?

 

[robbie]

The one i was thinking of was old chemistry i think, active flutriaol or something?

Was that called fortress????

I think for cercospora control we need to look to central and eastern Europe they must have to deal with it on a yearly basis.

 

[moorgate]

Has anyone looked how much Fert has gone up and sprays and fuel before saying 27 fair price

 

[AlfM]

British Sugar threatened with factory strikes over workers' pay dispute

Workers at British Sugar's factories are set to vote on strike action as tensions grow over a "not so sweet" wage dispute.

www.edp24.co.uk

 

[Mixedupfarmer]

British Sugar threatened with factory strikes over workers' pay dispute

Workers at British Sugar's factories are set to vote on strike action as tensions grow over a "not so sweet" wage dispute.

www.edp24.co.uk

So glad I am not growing this year. What a company

 

[davidroberts30]

you need elemental S to have any fungicidal effect. As said escolta rubbish on cercospora.

What options are there to add sulpher to the sprayer??

 

[robbie]

Thiovit and the kind, I used one on cereals a few years back as an experiment against mildew, it was a powder from upl.

Back in the day sulphur was the fungicide for beet. It wasn't routine to spray but if you did spray it would be elemental S.

I'm going to try elemental S plus copper on some of my beet.

 

[Hindsight]

Thiovit and the kind, I used one on cereals a few years back as an experiment against mildew, it was a powder from upl.

Back in the day sulphur was the fungicide for beet. It wasn't routine to spray but if you did spray it would be elemental S.

I'm going to try elemental S plus copper on some of my beet.

Sulphur was never a very good fungicide for mildew on beet - but it was all we had until the first triazoles came along.

In USA Copper, Tin and Mancozeb are used within a Cercospera programme, However, I comment the weather to date has not been suitable for Cercospera. I anticipate similar to aphids we (the industry / farmers and agronomists) will fight last years war this year. So the perfect fungicide programme in the wrong year. beet will stay clean of Cercospera and we shall all congratulate ourselves for such a marvelous choice of fungicide!

 

[Laggard]

How much nutrients have people applied to their sugar beet so far this season? Ours have only had one application of 3ltrs/ha Mn and 5kg/ha Epsotop on 24/6/21. Thinking of going again with the same or some RapsMix SC?

 

[Hindsight]

How much nutrients have people applied to their sugar beet so far this season? Ours have only had one application of 3ltrs/ha Mn and 5kg/ha Epsotop on 24/6/21. Thinking of going again with the same or some RapsMix SC?View attachment 971966

German. EU. Pity you couldn't find something made in UK really. Worth asking.

 

[robbie]

1 Lt ha MN with each herb, some have had 3 herbs some 2.
3lt/ha mn plus 5kg/ha epsotop plus 2 Lt boron so far.

I plan another 3lt MN and 5kg epsotop again and another 2 of boron but the beet look so well I will probably wait till T1 fungicide.

 

[davidroberts30]

1 Lt ha MN with each herb, some have had 3 herbs some 2.
3lt/ha mn plus 5kg/ha epsotop plus 2 Lt boron so far.

I plan another 3lt MN and 5kg epsotop again and another 2 of boron but the beet look so well I will probably wait till T1 fungicide.

when will you think about beet t1?

 

[robbie]

when will you think about beet t1?

Towards the end of the month but that depends on disease.
No disease and I'll hold fire into August to then give me protection longer into the autumn, October can be a very good growing time for beet.

 

[davidroberts30]

i had thought mid July/ mid august
unsure weather to try some sulphur too
i really don't want cercospora this year

 

[Laggard]

German. EU. Pity you couldn't find something made in UK really. Worth asking.

Good point, like your thinking. Used YaraVita Betatrel DF last year but apparently they’ve stopped making it(wasn’t made by Yara so not sure place of manufacture). They do make YARAVITA BRASSITREL PRO and YARAVITA PHOTREL PRO in the UK. Anybody used either of these products?

 

[nick...]

Had a call yesterday about sugar beet and I’ve not grown any for 7 years now.I was asked why I stopped growing and what would it take to start growing again.I told em I’d want at least £40 a ton.I was then asked if I would hire land to them and said no and told them of a friend who was treated terribly by bs and they were 4 months late lifting and made a major mess lifting and moving the crop which pretty much took a season to sort the damage.should have mentioned the bs rep stealing chemical from said farmer to use on his fathers crop,and at this point I’ll say allegedly but cctv is very handy.I think bs are beginning to realise what’s happening and how farmers are not going to tolerate pee poor treatment any more.anyone else had these calls
nick…

 

[robbie]

I think either they are pooing a brick about not having enough beet because speaking to several locally there little email price teaser isn't really cutting the mustard or they want to get enough acres of there own so are able to undermine the price negotiations.

 

[nick...]

People I know who rented land get pretty much screwed by bs and they know individuals don’t have the clout to fight a big company.I’m still amazed anyone who rents them ground.am I correct in thinking our leader boris is now going to get 15/20 % of sugar from abroad aswell.we’re getting screwed like the fishermen
nick…