Beet yields 2020
- Thread starter phr49
- Start date
- Location
- Lincs / Notts
I thought I had got the start of virus yellows showing around the outside 12m or so.
Agronomist had a look and is pretty sure it is capsid. So yours may be similar.?
Agronomist had a look and is pretty sure it is capsid. So yours may be similar.?
- Location
- West Suffolk
Capsid fly I’d say.
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
If BS catch wind of that they'll have the contracts out tomorrow to get us signed up before we have time to think.
alomy75
Member
I did 25t/ha on 3500t contract. In the three years back in beet we’ve done 89.9t/ha, 65.3 in first year without neonics and 25t last year. I know of growers who have done single figures around here (south lincs). I used to love beet; have worked at BS in the past and like to think I know what I’m doing but I’m now desperate to get out. One more contracted year and that’s me done. Sad times. The odd pound here or there on the price only comes in to play if you’re yielding a ‘normal’ yield…with these weather events/virus/disease threats it’s just not worth the risk for us.
two-cylinder
Member
- Location
- Cambridge
We quit for this season, and have had BS on the phone on numerous occasions trying to win us back.
The final suggestion in the last conversation being: Would you consider letting your land- for someone else to grow beet on your land?
Father replied: 'That wouldn't be very fair to the tenant would it? When I know there is very little if anything to be made without rent"
The final suggestion in the last conversation being: Would you consider letting your land- for someone else to grow beet on your land?
Father replied: 'That wouldn't be very fair to the tenant would it? When I know there is very little if anything to be made without rent"
What were they offering? I think the tenant in question likely has his eyes open…..
Never heard of capsid before. Just had a quick google and it says tips of leaves aren’t brittle with capsid but mine unfortunately are. Is there a test for capsid? Should I send some leaves to BBRO? Definitely 12m headland the worst.
Hindsight
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
A few years since I saw Capsid damage. Does initially look like virus but only affect a couple of leaves usually. A headland issue - first few rows next to border of field where Capsids usually live. Irrelevant to crop. See leaf puckering in potatoes.
If you are unsure use te Plant Clinic at BBRO - thats what its there for. Look up the address and contact numbers on the regular info emails. Let us know result.
- Location
- Lincs / Notts
It says capsid can be confused with virus yellows. Either way I don't think there is much you can do.
Suppose for piece of mind you could send a sample to BBRO.
- Location
- West Suffolk
Just had a quick walk through a beet field to get a couple of seedy ones, found these, thoughts?
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- Location
- Lincs / Notts
Seems like negotiations between NFU and British Sugar have stalled some what. Email from NFU Sugar reads :-
Dear fellow grower,
We wrote to you on 30th June to explain our negotiating position. We felt obliged to do this following British Sugar's unilateral communication of an indicative minimum offer; one that we did not agree to. In our negotiations since then, British Sugar has told us they are unwilling to add any additional value to their indicative minimum offer.
The feedback we have received from many of you has been overwhelmingly supportive of our negotiating position and our reasons for that position.
Since 30th June, NFU Sugar has made several further, meaningful offers to British Sugar to try and seek a timely conclusion to the negotiation.
In contrast, British Sugar’s offers back to us have simply ‘shuffled the pack’. They have told us they are unwilling to add any additional value to their indicative minimum offer.
We will continue to negotiate in good faith on your behalf, but despite our best endeavours we are not optimistic that the negotiations will be concluded any time soon.
Yours faithfully,
Dear fellow grower,
We wrote to you on 30th June to explain our negotiating position. We felt obliged to do this following British Sugar's unilateral communication of an indicative minimum offer; one that we did not agree to. In our negotiations since then, British Sugar has told us they are unwilling to add any additional value to their indicative minimum offer.
The feedback we have received from many of you has been overwhelmingly supportive of our negotiating position and our reasons for that position.
Since 30th June, NFU Sugar has made several further, meaningful offers to British Sugar to try and seek a timely conclusion to the negotiation.
In contrast, British Sugar’s offers back to us have simply ‘shuffled the pack’. They have told us they are unwilling to add any additional value to their indicative minimum offer.
We will continue to negotiate in good faith on your behalf, but despite our best endeavours we are not optimistic that the negotiations will be concluded any time soon.
Yours faithfully,
- Location
- West Suffolk
BS wants £25, NFU £27, Growers want £30?
Fiveospades
Member
- Location
- Norfolk Broads
BS will play the virusyellow support card and the proximity to the factory enhancement card to make the price look attractive. At the end of the day they are offering £25.00 per ton and there will be growers that will grow for that price. It will take more than 25.00 per ton for me to continue risking my soil structure by putting a 30 ton machine over my land in late autumn to early winter. We have grown beet ever since Cantley factory was built and they have been very good for us but pure economics must rule nowadays and it is with a heavy heart that I will not be seeking a contract this coming year. It will be such a shame for many hundreds of people that are directly and indirectly employed throughout the domestic sugar industry if it becomes a shadow of it's current self . As I have said before on this thread there is a difference of50p between a bag of Tate and Lyle sugar and a bag of silver spoon sugar in our local Co Op that is only six miles from Cantley factory. Thank you HM government for agreeing trade deals that jeopardise home industries and disregard the hoops that home producers jump through to deliver safe and nutritious food for the sake of potential votes next time round, you really must be proud of yourselves.
- Location
- West Suffolk
Sadly I believe the residents of BSE would rather the factory gone and import the sugar. The lorries, the stink.
Yes there’s Greene King with a similar set of lorries and stink, but a necessary evil for what they produce.
Yes there’s Greene King with a similar set of lorries and stink, but a necessary evil for what they produce.
Daniel
Member
- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
I think i'm seeing virus yellows appearing in some fields this week as well.
Fiveospades
Member
- Location
- Norfolk Broads
Checking a very lush looking crop almost daily but seen no reason to spray yet. BBRO update expected later today.
- Location
- West Suffolk
Later emerged beet?