Beet yields 2020

[Daniel]

I can’t see many people signing 3 year deals again?

 

[Sonoftheheir]

I can’t see many people signing 3 year deals again?

No, looks like that option is finished. 3 year too risky now with the virus and disease threats?

 

[Fiveospades]

27.00 +the 2.00 proximity to the factory enhancement is making me think a little. It is better than the 25.00 quid that was talked about but I am wondering how much our growing costs are to rise given the supply and demand situation we are experiencing at the moment. It is inevitable that chemical costs will rise as will fuel and fertiliser but who knows how much.Even with the improved offer we could still be in the same place. Don't forget the cut in BPS as well.

 

[Flat 10]

I can’t see many people signing 3 year deals again?

Apparently some people did last year!!!!

 

[Flat 10]

27.00 +the 2.00 proximity to the factory enhancement is making me think a little. It is better than the 25.00 quid that was talked about but I am wondering how much our growing costs are to rise given the supply and demand situation we are experiencing at the moment. It is inevitable that chemical costs will rise as will fuel and fertiliser but who knows how much.Even with the improved offer we could still be in the same place. Don't forget the cut in BPS as well.

Surely the cut in BPS effects all crops equally?

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Beet are looking well here

 

[Flat 10]

Lifting next door…..

 

[davidroberts30]

does anyone weigh a few roots through the season to have a idea for yields

 

[robbie]

I can’t see many people signing 3 year deals again?

People should never have signed the 3 year deal in the first place!

 

[Daniel]

If you're going to negotiate you need to have a target price in mind.

£29, the job is too risky with virus yellows, rocketing input prices, the expensive damage to your following wheat yields, soil structure, farm tracks, clamp costs etc. And British Sugar will think £29 is more presentable to their shareholders than £30.

So people within 9 miles of the factory have actually got the £29 I suggested?

We have next year left on the contract so as I read it we would get approx £26.50 next year inc the proximity bonus and then have to grow again the year after for £26.50. Is that right?

 

[Daniel]

People should never have signed the 3 year deal in the first place!

Alright smart@rse!

 

[robbie]

Barely. Our haulage allowance (final amount) is based on actual costs though isn’t it? 2 things that strike me, why do they particularly want beet from within 28miles of the factory? Secondly I’m slightly disappointed that the market bonus has been scrapped, I never expected to receive anything but hoped it was there to protect growers from unexpected price rises so we can get a share of any unexpected BS profits.

I suspect that bs have dropped the market bonus because for the first time since it's inception BS think there might be a real chance of sugar prices rising!

 

[Will 1594]

does anyone weigh a few roots through the season to have a idea for yields

our neighbour weighs every week does all ours and his own
and measures round them
fair man for 83
spot d as prayed out some sow thistle with knapsack 60 acre 8 loads

 

[spin cycle]

what quotes are you lads getting for plough down fert?

 

[davidroberts30]

our neighbour weighs every week does all ours and his own
and measures round them
fair man for 83
spot d as prayed out some sow thistle with knapsack 60 acre 8 loads

3 weeks ago i weighed a few and 900gram average

 

[robbie]

what quotes are you lads getting for plough down fert?

Bugger me spinney, for someone whose usually a fortnight behind you keen with you fert!!!!! I won't worry about that until January.

 

[robbie]

3 weeks ago i weighed a few and 900gram average

So assuming you've got an optimum plant population of circa 100 000/ha your looking at a 90t/ha crop......ish

 

[spin cycle]

Bugger me spinney, for someone whose usually a fortnight behind you keen with you fert!!!!! I won't worry about that until January.

i'm three weeks behind ....not buying any cos not growing fodder beet anymore.....but given gossip about rising fert prices i'm interested to know what sort of prices being quoted.....anyhoo arn't a lot of you doing the sums on the new beet price?

 

[robbie]

i'm three weeks behind ....not buying any cos not growing fodder beet anymore.....but given gossip about rising fert prices i'm interested to know what sort of prices being quoted.....anyhoo arn't a lot of you doing the sums on the new beet price?

I was being kind with a fortnight, a decade or two might have been more accurate

What's the point doing too many sums, I'm twit enough to keep growing them. I was growing them for 20 odd so so can't see any calculator saying NO at £27.20
Potash last year was 250 and is now 400 and my beet blend was 170 so I recon it'll be 250 atleast this year.

 

[spin cycle]

I was being kind with a fortnight, a decade or two might have been more accurate

What's the point doing too many sums, I'm twit enough to keep growing them. I was growing them for 20 odd so so can't see any calculator saying NO at £27.20
Potash last year was 250 and is now 400 and my beet blend was 170 so I recon it'll be 250 atleast this year.

that is so true

life was better back in the eighties so thats where i've 'regressed to