Behaviour of the Public and Dominic Cummings

som farmer

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somerset
if he is, the best man, for the job, in the present time, and he is exceedingly clever, personally, I couldn't care less, what he has/hasn't done, why cut your nose off, to save face?
 

Henarar

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Somerset
I agree with you in every aspect of this comment except that the whole shambolic affair was a gross example of poor judgement for a man in Cummings position to involve himself in. It is obvious to all who are not blind that he has many enemies, few of them personal, but in doing what he did he has let down his friends and allies by fuelling opposition. You and others on here know full well what my political persuasions and my views on Brexit are and this affair is a betrayal.
well fine him for traveling under lockdown same as anyone else
 

Henarar

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Somerset
so there is one punishment for us, we get a fine
one punishment for them [and by them I mean folk like boris and prince Charles], they get away with it
and another rule for advisers, they get the sack

well I am bloody well glad we cleared that little sh1t storm up
 

Henarar

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Somerset
if he is, the best man, for the job, in the present time, and he is exceedingly clever, personally, I couldn't care less, what he has/hasn't done, why cut your nose off, to save face?
he should be fined same as anyone else
I wonder if any action has been taken against the prats that were outside his house breaking the rules while accusing him of breaking the rules ? there is plenty of evidence they were on the fecking telly doing it
 

arcobob

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Norfolk
he should be fined same as anyone else
I wonder if any action has been taken against the prats that were outside his house breaking the rules while accusing him of breaking the rules ? there is plenty of evidence they were on the fecking telly doing it
They should be fined and then moved on. At the end of the day it is a government issue of which he is just one part. They should be seen to be dealing with this because it is vitally important that we all act responsibly. If people want to demonstrate against the government that is fine but not outside the home of an individual.
 

Widgetone

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Westish Suffolk
To my mind, the only thing about the Cummings saga is the bringing about of a premature relaxation of the lockdown to try and appease some elements of the public. We'll only know the wisdom or otherwise of this in about a fortnight.
Still too many new cases for my liking out there.

Anyone going to a car showroom today?
 

Henarar

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Somerset
To my mind, the only thing about the Cummings saga is the bringing about of a premature relaxation of the lockdown to try and appease some elements of the public. We'll only know the wisdom or otherwise of this in about a fortnight.
Still too many new cases for my liking out there.

Anyone going to a car showroom today?
No, use some sense and stay home
 

som farmer

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somerset
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This shows journalism at its worst, presumably the above is correct, and I see no reason, why it isn't, those papers that hyped the story, have caused the belief, that cummings did all those things. If cummings is a very important cog, then they have tried to downcry the guvs strategy, going forward, simply because they don't like him.
 

br jones

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From the same writer as above.
A few days ago, photos emerged showing Varadkar and his partner, Matthew Barrett, having a picnic with friends in Phoenix Park in Dublin. At first, the photos were just floating around social media. The media, especially the notoriously unctuous Irish media, were not interested. Eventually, however, notice had to be taken. The pics were published in the press. They made their way over to the UK media too, in the BBC, the Guardian and elsewhere. And guess what tone these reports struck? Yep, they were sympathetic, supportive. ‘Nothing to see here.’
Now, as it happens, I agree there is nothing to see here. I fully support the Taoiseach’s, and every other Irish person’s, right to have a picnic, even if Ireland’s stringent lockdown advice says picnics are not allowed. And the advice has said that, pretty plainly. Indeed, a few days before the Taoiseach’s ‘shirtless picnic’, as the media refer to it, his own assistant secretary, Liz Canavan, advised against picnicking. ‘If you’re visiting a public amenity, try not to stay too long at the site or have picnics… do your exercise and go home’, she said.

Varadkar, her boss, the man who runs Ireland and has been promoting the lockdown and social distancing for weeks, was not exercising. He was picnicking. What’s more, the current guidelines in Ireland say that you can meet one or two people from other households so long as you maintain a two-metre distance. The Taoiseach’s get-together in the sun looked far cosier than that.
To me, that’s fine. I don’t think anyone – Varadkar, Cummings, Neil Ferguson, people crowding on to beaches, kids smoking weed in parks – should be slammed for exercising their judgement and bending lockdown rules. But some people, especially in the media, do care about the lockdown rules. A lot. Just witness their borderline deranged fury with Cummings for driving to Durham, not to whip his shirt off and eat and drink with friends, but to keep his ill family safe in an uncertain period. That caused media hysteria, including in Ireland, whereas Varadkar’s picnic generated only a tiny amount of criticism in the Irish press. Everyone else has shrugged their shoulders.
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Why the double standards? Everyone knows the answer to this question. It’s because of politics. Varadkar is every Remoaner’s favourite Brexit-blocker, a man cheered for behaving like a patsy of the EU over the past couple of years. Cummings, on the other hand, is viewed as evil incarnate – the man who helped to deliver Brexit and Boris to Downing St and who, in the process, shattered the dreams of the Remainer elites and the woke left. They loathe him, and their weird, obsessive, creepy focus on where he went during lockdown is transparently an extension of that loathing.
It’s so clear now that the Cummings fuss has nothing to do with car journeys, Durham, Barnard Castle or any of the other crap. This is Remoaner Revenge and chattering-class politicking dolled up as concern about the pandemic. That’s why Varadkar is forgiven for having a shirtless picnic while Cummings is demonised for driving north to protect his wife and child from media intrusion. How about this: we forgive them both and move the hell on.
 

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