Best tractor of the 80's

[John 1594]

9n was only about 25hp, it would need 20 of that to lug itself about at that weight, let alone pull anything else

be interesting stopping it at full speed too, the brakes were very very similar to those on a te20

Can tell petrol was cheap back in those days!!!!

 

[two-cylinder]

they did put a 6 354 in a 188 back in the 70s, feck knows why they didnt put it into prouduction

It's a good question but, probably getting around a few problems would have cost too much. Such as steering? 188 has timing gear driven PAS, how are you gonna drive the pump on a 6.354?
Also, would the PAS system cope with the extra weight up front?
What about the clutch?
Doubt the 188 clutch would have coped?
Perhaps better MF abandoned the idea than produce a poor contrived model like Leyland did with the 2100?

 

[John 1594]

Sure ive seen a pic of that 6cyl powered 185 somewhere......had a bloody huge exhaust up the side of the bonnet and a flexi cab....it did look a hell of a thing

 

[smcapstick]

It's a good question but, probably getting around a few problems would have cost too much. Such as steering? 188 has timing gear driven PAS, how are you gonna drive the pump on a 6.354?
Also, would the PAS system cope with the extra weight up front?
What about the clutch?
Doubt the 188 clutch would have coped?
Perhaps better MF abandoned the idea than produce a poor contrived model like Leyland did with the 2100?

As much as like like utterly rubbish Leylands, the 285 and 2100 really were genuinely and utterly crap.

 

[two-cylinder]

Sure ive seen a pic of that 6cyl powered 185 somewhere......had a bloody huge exhaust up the side of the bonnet and a flexi cab....it did look a hell of a thing

Yes, it was at Cambridge Cowley road sale in about 1990, I took a picture of it.
Didn't study the engineering, but cosmetically it didn't look right?

 

[John 1594]

It is a 9n. Weight. 7250 lbs

i wonder where they ended up dropping this, it probably weighs as much as the 9n does!!!

 

[multi power]

It's a good question but, probably getting around a few problems would have cost too much. Such as steering? 188 has timing gear driven PAS, how are you gonna drive the pump on a 6.354?
Also, would the PAS system cope with the extra weight up front?
What about the clutch?
Doubt the 188 clutch would have coped?
Perhaps better MF abandoned the idea than produce a poor contrived model like Leyland did with the 2100?

very easy to drive a sterring pump from a 6 354, the clutch in a 1200 seems to cope fine, the steering would cope at least as well as if a loader had been fitted

 

[John 1594]

very easy to drive a sterring pump from a 6 354, the clutch in a 1200 seems to cope fine, the steering would cope at least as well as if a loader had been fitted

belt driven pump off the crank, or run it off the fuel pump drive tailshaft

 

[smcapstick]

MF 299, anyone? 140HP 6-banger with a 3 stick box. Lurvly!

 

[John 1594]

MF 299, anyone? 140HP 6-banger with a 3 stick box. Lurvly!
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put some 100 series tinwork on it and it would more easier on the eye

sure all modern tractor stylists are blind as bats, new tractors seem to get uglier by the year

 

[smcapstick]

put some 100 series tinwork on it and it would more easier on the eye

sure all modern tractor stylists are blind as bats, new tractors seem to get uglier by the year

I think late 90s to late 00s were the worst. Shapeless blobs. They have sharpened them up, now. For a Massey, I think a 699 takes a bit of beating in the looks department (as long as it's still there and not a pile of orange dust).

 

[John 1594]

looks wise, they got it about right with the 40 and TM series fords, JD 6000/6010s, MF 6200s , Case MX etc

everything since has just looked horrible with added on lights and bulgous bonnets to hide the ever increasing crap festooned under the engine bay

 

[multi power]

MF 299, anyone? 140HP 6-banger with a 3 stick box. Lurvly!
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can somebody pass the tissues please

 

[sherg]

can somebody pass the tissues please

are you masseybaiting

 

[two-cylinder]

Here it is!

 

[multi power]

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Here it is!

dont think thats the one i seen before, pretty sure it was in classic tractor, maybe 5 years ago, think it was a protatype on a farm in nuneaten warickshire

 

[multi power]

dont think thats the one i seen before, pretty sure it was in classic tractor, maybe 5 years ago, think it was a protatype on a farm in nuneaten warickshire

@Cab-over Pete do you know anything about this? wrong colour for you i know but maybe in your area

 

[Red Fred]

i wonder where they ended up dropping this, it probably weighs as much as the 9n does!!!

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The first ones were dropped on the range in the New Forest near Fordingbridge. The Grand Slam crater was bulldozed but is still just visible and must have been huge. They dropped an inert one which drilled 80 feet down into the hill and is still there. When they dropped a Tallboy on test, they decided that the safest place to put the cine camera was smack in the middle of the target as the chances of hitting that spot were slim, but the Dambusters scored a direct hit and blew it to bits!

 

[Red Fred]

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Also gearboxes (8 speed at least) and backend were heavily built and could easily take the power of the bigger 6 cyls. Plus the industrial engines could be used in them with very little work, and they were pretty strong engines

Also add the fact with the interchangeability of Ford components is quite handy, in far flung places around the world like in WA, NT, any of the Pacific Islands and out the back of no where in NZ thats a great advantage, with David Browns thats something you can't do, and if you did need parts ex UK you had a six week wait for parts back in the 70's and 80's, if you were lucky.....