Blenky resigns?

[Grass And Grain]

didn't ahdb get a bloody nose from the tattie guys. if so they will be a wee bit scared they will lose more subs. ?

Yes they did.

I like AHDB, but think they'll come a cropper if they can't get unfettered access into feed mills for grain grown to UK legislative standards.

That grain is perfectly safe, so AHDB should not support Red Tractor in not allowing it into feed mills.

Unless AHDB want to come out and say the grain is unsafe and a danger to livestock and consumers.

 

[Clive]

didn't ahdb get a bloody nose from the tattie guys. if so they will be a wee bit scared they will lose more subs. ?

yes- potatoes and then horticulture both voted out last year - this has hit them hard

cereals will be next if they don’t start representing us over and above the needs of a private assurance company

 

[ollie989898]

yes- potatoes and then horticulture both voted out last year - this has hit them hard

cereals will be next if they don’t start representing us over and above the needs of a private assurance company

Vote it out and then form an independent cereals board. Get enough farmers behind that and the ag-chem industry will be attracted to it and might even put some money it's way to fund R and D. Form it like a co-op, then the seed breeders will want in as well. Look to the French/European model of coop. An organisation that is about driving the best deals for farmers and shaping R&D they want to see rather than a chain of stores flogging horsey boots.

 

[Hfd Cattle]

I had similar, 2 years after moving to Caleb Roberts (20% lower premium for better cover, through NIG). I heard nothing back either, until well after the renewal date when we spoke about another matter and he apologised but said they hadn’t been able to touch them.

Any claims have been handled through Caleb Roberts, and have been settled without quibble (admittedly not had a ‘biggy’ though, thankfully).

Caleb have been top class on my claims ...pickup stolen paid within 10 days and then got an extra £1500 cos Caleb told NIG that they hadn't paid out well enough on it and fought my case ......the first payout was more than I gave for it !!
Had quite a large claim on some cows ....paid up within 7days .
We have just had a claim on one of our properties in Barking last month and was told to just get the work done and send the bill . We did just that and 2 days after sending the bill the money was in our account .

 

[simon w]

Vote it out and then form an independent cereals board. Get enough farmers behind that and the ag-chem industry will be attracted to it and might even put some money it's way to fund R and D. Form it like a co-op, then the seed breeder will want in as well. Look to the French/European model of coop. An organisation that is about driving the best deals for farmers and shaping R&D they want to see rather than a chain of stores flogging horsey boots.

Similar to the old HGCA truly independent of DEFRA and other sectors. I think we need a growers association that just represents the growers of that crop type.The AHDB has become a big quango with over grown expenses. I subscribe to trade associations that offer me value and don't have them telling me it is a criminal offence not to pay as with AHDB potatoes and horticulture. I don't think they are going to give us a vote, it's to risky so we will have to find a way to call for one.

 

[DRC]

Yes they did.

I like AHDB, but think they'll come a cropper if they can't get unfettered access into feed mills for grain grown to UK legislative standards.

That grain is perfectly safe, so AHDB should not support Red Tractor in not allowing it into feed mills.

Unless AHDB want to come out and say the grain is unsafe and a danger to livestock and consumers.

Just has the phone call and did the survey. ExplaIned everything about the giving levy money to red tractor fiasco, which the chap noted. I got the impression he’d heard it a few times before. Asked if I was prepared to do a longer 30 min survey and go into more detail, which I said I would.
Hopefully it’s getting through to them .

 

[ollie989898]

Similar to the old HGCA truly independent of DEFRA and other sectors. I think we need a growers association that just represents the growers of that crop type.The AHDB has become a big quango with over grown expenses. I subscribe to trade associations that offer me value and don't have them telling me it is a criminal offence not to pay as with AHDB potatoes and horticulture. I don't think they are going to give us a vote, it's to risky so we will have to find a way to call for one.

HCGA and the like were classic quangos and they should never have been allowed.

The replacement body should have voluntary membership and be financed through an annual paid subscription only. If you get enough farmers behind it, the agrochemical/seed/technical companies will flock to it. It must use a completely open and transparent business model with the accounts freely available to members.

I will never understand why the French coop model doesn't work in the UK. Well I can- various parties won't allow it because it would put them out of business. Once a coop is large enough to operate it's own mills, port facilities etc they can levy a small amount of money per tonne on non-members tipping product there etc.

 

[Sid]

pickup stolen paid within 10 days and then got an extra £1500 cos Caleb told NIG that they hadn't paid out well enough on it and fought my case ......the first payout was more than I gave for it !!

It's about its worth the second before the accident, not how much you gave for something.

 

[Clive]

Vote it out and then form an independent cereals board. Get enough farmers behind that and the ag-chem industry will be attracted to it and might even put some money it's way to fund R and D. Form it like a co-op, then the seed breeders will want in as well. Look to the French/European model of coop. An organisation that is about driving the best deals for farmers and shaping R&D they want to see rather than a chain of stores flogging horsey boots.

i will vote out if they don’t support uk cereal farners on the red tractor issue- i can not support anyone that doesn’t support my business

i imagine MANY other will as well


i think date for a vote had bern set for spring ? …… it seems to have been postponed though ? i think they understand the fragility of their existence right now !!

 

[Grass And Grain]

Just has the phone call and did the survey. ExplaIned everything about the giving levy money to red tractor fiasco, which the chap noted. I got the impression he’d heard it a few times before. Asked if I was prepared to do a longer 30 min survey and go into more detail, which I said I would.
Hopefully it’s getting through to them .

Well done. The more people who highlight the issue the better.

 

[ajd132]

HCGA and the like were classic quangos and they should never have been allowed.

The replacement body should have voluntary membership and be financed through an annual paid subscription only. If you get enough farmers behind it, the agrochemical/seed/technical companies will flock to it. It must use a completely open and transparent business model with the accounts freely available to members.

I will never understand why the French coop model doesn't work in the UK. Well I can- various parties won't allow it because it would put them out of business. Once a coop is large enough to operate it's own mills, port facilities etc they can levy a small amount of money per tonne on non-members tipping product there etc.

The co op I am a director of Camgrain we have just announced a brand new oat mill to be built in the midlands. Really exciting stuff. It’s a JV though with frontier and anglia malsters.

 

[ollie989898]

The co op I am a director of Camgrain we have just announced a brand new oat mill to be built in the midlands. Really exciting stuff. It’s a JV though with frontier and anglia malsters.

I don't know your part of the world at all but I do not see why the UK industry cannot adopt the same cooperative model the French use. It works well for them and gives individual farmers a much bigger hand in the marketplace.

 

[ajd132]

I don't know your part of the world at all but I do not see why the UK industry cannot adopt the same cooperative model the French use. It works well for them and gives individual farmers a much bigger hand in the marketplace.

I agree, Brits seem to have a different mindset to the French though.

 

[teslacoils]

The co op I am a director of Camgrain we have just announced a brand new oat mill to be built in the midlands. Really exciting stuff. It’s a JV though with frontier and anglia malsters.

Red tractor sticker needed?

 

[lloyd]

It is separate, but you get a discount if you are an NFU member (just as you might if you’re buying a Isuzu, or whatever truck they are offering membership discounts for).
It’s not a ‘threat’ when the agent is, quite rightly, pointing out that an insurance client will no longer get that discount if they are no longer an NFU member.

It’s nothing sinister.

That's not correct my mutual bonus discounts have never
been linked with being a member until now.
I've never been a member and historically our business
hasn't for over 3 decades.

 

[glasshouse]

HCGA and the like were classic quangos and they should never have been allowed.

The replacement body should have voluntary membership and be financed through an annual paid subscription only. If you get enough farmers behind it, the agrochemical/seed/technical companies will flock to it. It must use a completely open and transparent business model with the accounts freely available to members.

I will never understand why the French coop model doesn't work in the UK. Well I can- various parties won't allow it because it would put them out of business. Once a coop is large enough to operate it's own mills, port facilities etc they can levy a small amount of money per tonne on non-members tipping product there etc.

The french farmers work together because the SAFER decides who gets extra land next door, not a d**kh**d agent so back stabbing doesnt happen.

 

[DrWazzock]

I use an independent insurance broker who shops around for the best deal each year. Best way IMO. He’s never used NFU Mutual.

 

[An Gof]

I use an independent insurance broker who shops around for the best deal each year. Best way IMO. He’s never used NFU Mutual.

Is that because it is best for you or best for him?

How would you know?

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

I use an independent insurance broker who shops around for the best deal each year. Best way IMO. He’s never used NFU Mutual.

Me too

Alan Boswell 01953 458 836

 

[Clive]

Is that because it is best for you or best for him?

How would you know?

by comparison of quotes ? moving from NFU mutual 6yrs ago has saved us well over 120k now and services/ pay out of the alternatives (Acres and F&M before that) has been MUCH better than the mutual ever were

loyalty doesn’t pay with insurance, I learnt that the expensive way !

getting multiple quotes cost nothing but time and frankly given their connection to the NFU who are failing members right now I wouldn’t use the mutual even if cheaper