Boris Johnson unveils ‘grow for Britain’ plan

[Humble Village Farmer]

I noticed Bozza saying he's going to help farmers with their fuel and fertiliser.

Is this the long awaited subsidy to CF that Minnie has been campaigning for?

 

[J 1177]

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I noticed Bozza saying he's going to help farmers with their fuel and fertiliser.

Is this the long awaited subsidy to CF that Minnie has been campaigning for?

More like he will say weve let farmers keep red diesel and give another bailout to CF

 

[steveR]

I decided a while ago that it is little to do with either poor wages or lazy Brits. It is location. We fecked it up when we built on the market gardens and moved all of the veg growing to the middle of nowhere. Turn Heathrow into a market garden for London. Anything else is fannying about at the edge of the problem. Several problems.

I was running South East from Glasgow to teh Border area on the back roads a few years back, and was intrigued by what seemed to be various abandoned and derelict glasshouses, and equally abandoned market gardens. Chatting to a Scots neighbour and he told me that these outfits used to supply most of the fresh produce to the City, and the same near Edinburgh.

Same near most big conurbations?

 

[anzani]

Anything specific jump out

Maybe the media read the Press release; does it read the same as the Ministers statement?

Tech and innovation drive to boost food production and back British farmers

Government food strategy will back our farmers by helping to increase domestic production, spread jobs and grow the economy.

www.gov.uk

 

[warksfarmer]

This is an interesting point in the document. So end of Red Tractor is imminent then because no way is every other country going to set up their own RT to allow them to export to the U.K.

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• Publish a statement setting out requirements for those wishing to access the UK market to objectively demonstrate they deliver an equivalent level of health protection to our high domestic standards”

 

[steveR]

She said that we are uniquely placed to produce red meat due to our temperate climate

Im guessing that maybe the NFU are rowing back too now government have alter course to more production based farming …. But who knows?

I go the impression that she seemed to be taking a slightly morer realistic view...

The Farmer who called in soon after, was infintely more sensible though... Even had a good pop at Moonbot, which seemed to be offensive to Whine...

 

[steveR]

They seem to think we are all going to earn a living from food production, including the 10 000 immigrant workers prepared to do what British ones don't.

A bit light on the detail but reading between the lines, the accept the era of cheap food is over.

One positive, they are going to teach children about food and stop people getting fat

It's a long old document and I only skimmed through it.

Impressive to get that far.

More than the ecowonk BBC Correspondent managed.

 

[Huno]

What do you mean 'anything'? I do have other things to do.

You was meant as a general term not you specifically.

NFU goffer this one

 

[Huno]

I noticed Bozza saying he's going to help farmers with their fuel and fertiliser.

Is this the long awaited subsidy to CF that Minnie has been campaigning for?

Bo locks he will

 

[HAM135]

They seem to think we are all going to earn a living from food production, including the 10 000 immigrant workers prepared to do what British ones don't.

A bit light on the detail but reading between the lines, they accept the era of cheap food is over.

One positive, they are going to teach children about food and stop people getting fat

It's a long old document and I only skimmed through it.

Never noticed the bit about the era of cheap food being over,did see a few times about the need for keeping food affordable,which I would think means bend over and brace yourself,same old same,supermarkets will still dictate whether or not we are aloud a profit.

 

[Secret Agronomist]

I was running South East from Glasgow to teh Border area on the back roads a few years back, and was intrigued by what seemed to be various abandoned and derelict glasshouses, and equally abandoned market gardens. Chatting to a Scots neighbour and he told me that these outfits used to supply most of the fresh produce to the City, and the same near Edinburgh.

Same near most big conurbations?

Clyde Valley tomatoes were famous many years ago

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Never noticed the bit about the era of cheap food being over,did see a few times about the need for keeping food affordable,which I would think means bend over and brace yourself,same old same,supermarkets will still dictate whether or not we are aloud a profit.

Oh I didn't see that rather threatening and yet ridiculous claim.

I inferred from them saying that everyone was going to be productive and well paid that food would have to go up to pay for it all. They can't have it both ways...

 

[steveR]

Oh I didn't see that rather threatening and yet ridiculous claim.

I inferred from them saying that everyone was going to be productive and well paid that food would have to go up to pay for it all. They can't have it both ways...

I think that you will find in Bozzerland, He can...

 

[Bald Rick]

I go the impression that she seemed to be taking a slightly morer realistic view...

The Farmer who called in soon after, was infintely more sensible though... Even had a good pop at Moonbot, which seemed to be offensive to Whine...

Martin the farmer started off on the right foot but erred by mentioning Monbiot. That immediately erked Whine who quickly cut him off as they are great pals. A bit of research would have known that

Actually, I’m not sure any of the farmer voices were particularly helpful and therein lies the problem. The message(s) need to be clean, clear cut and succinct.

 

[delilah]

I was running South East from Glasgow to teh Border area on the back roads a few years back, and was intrigued by what seemed to be various abandoned and derelict glasshouses, and equally abandoned market gardens. Chatting to a Scots neighbour and he told me that these outfits used to supply most of the fresh produce to the City, and the same near Edinburgh.

Same near most big conurbations?

It was a system of fresh food production that evolved alongside the urbanization that came with the Industrial Revolution, and worked perfectly.
And then we fecked it all up by handing it all over to the cartel to centralize it all. Did I say: Market share is the root of all evil.

 

[delilah]

What do you mean 'anything'? I do have other things to do.

You was meant as a general term not you specifically.

I asked if you could point me to an NFU policy paper on small/ regional abattoirs. I will save you the time. It doesn't exist. Because it is NFU policy to support consolidation in the abattoir sector. Flying in the face of the constant calls from livestock farmers for this to be an issue for the NFU to address. How can they, when to do so would p!ss off the cartel ? So don;t tell me I whinge and that it is my problem that things don't change. I make constructive suggestions, and the NFU is incapable of implementing them because it is rotten to the core. A situation that saddens me greatly.

 

[delilah]

The message(s) need to be clean, clear cut and succinct.

Something like "Cows don't cause climate change."

Instead we get a dogs breakfast of regenerative farming/ methane masks/ perfect climate/ we are trying to breed better belching cows. It's a f@ck up of a response, from a f@cked up industry.

 

[serf]

LBC now !!

 

[teslacoils]

Let them witter on. Do these policy documents influence your decisions? There's no big change here.

The more pages = the more bs to hide that there is nothing new here.

No new money. Lots of consultation. So it nebulous waffle. Nothing to see here.

 

[Chae1]

We need to become more efficient.