Bosis’ leaked food strategy document; worse than half-baked

Not in the least bit surprised any farmer would think this governments food and farming strategy is half baked at the least.

Then I started reading that guardian article linked above criticising their strategy and words fail me, I’m sure there’s plenty of room for criticism but I wasn’t expecting that.☹️
 

delilah

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@delilah , do you still suggest we should see the Green lobby as our ‘friends’?

Now more than ever. The interface between farmers and the environmental movement isn't represented by Greenpeace but by Sustain. Which bit of the quote in that article from the Sustain chap do you disagree with ?

The meat consumption thing is such a minor part of this issue as to be pretty much irrelevant. It is seized on by farmers, greens and the media as a lazy way of creating conflict.


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If our business folds, it wont be because the Government has issued guidelines on how many grams of meat folks should eat each day, but because of a lack of local, appropriate scale abattoir capacity.

Sustain members are working far harder on this issue than are the NFU and AHDB (who are, in actuality, working to make the situation worse).

That makes the environmental movement, more than those we pay subs and levies to, our ally.
 
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melted welly

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Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
Dimbleby:
“Careful livestock farming can be a boon to the environment, but our current appetite for meat is unsustainable: 85% of farmland is used to feed livestock. We need some of that land back.”

To grow what?

even more veg to be disced in coz no one wants it? More potatoes to be sent for stock feed? More berries to be left to rot coz there’s not enough pickers? I don’t understand what alternative FOOD sources he wants grown.

Unless of course it’s just a smokescreen to free up land for greenwashing……. But they wouldn’t do that would they?🤔

bunch of c-units.
 

DaveGrohl

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Location
Cumbria
Dimbleby:
“Careful livestock farming can be a boon to the environment, but our current appetite for meat is unsustainable: 85% of farmland is used to feed livestock. We need some of that land back.”

To grow what?

even more veg to be disced in coz no one wants it? More potatoes to be sent for stock feed? More berries to be left to rot coz there’s not enough pickers? I don’t understand what alternative FOOD sources he wants grown.

Unless of course it’s just a smokescreen to free up land for greenwashing……. But they wouldn’t do that would they?🤔

bunch of c-units.
Yeah. See, I haven't actually read it yet, just posted it last night but I glanced at it and the 85% bit stuck out like a sore thumb. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

If that's the standard of research, understanding and consideration that is going into these policies then I really do worry about the human race. I'm embarrassed to be human.
 

delilah

Member
Dimbleby:
“Careful livestock farming can be a boon to the environment, but our current appetite for meat is unsustainable: 85% of farmland is used to feed livestock. We need some of that land back.”

To grow what?

even more veg to be disced in coz no one wants it? More potatoes to be sent for stock feed? More berries to be left to rot coz there’s not enough pickers? I don’t understand what alternative FOOD sources he wants grown.

Unless of course it’s just a smokescreen to free up land for greenwashing……. But they wouldn’t do that would they?🤔

bunch of c-units.

If folks really want to get bogged down in the meat thing, it is worth remembering that one person, and only one, sat on both of Mr Dimbleby's advisory panels.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Now more than ever. The interface between farmers and the environmental movement isn't represented by Greenpeace but by Sustain. Which bit of the quote in that article from the Sustain chap do you disagree with ?

The meat consumption thing is such a minor part of this issue as to be pretty much irrelevant. It is seized on by farmers, greens and the media as a lazy way of creating conflict.


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If our business folds, it wont be because the Government has issued guidelines on how many grams of meat folks should eat each day, but because of a lack of local, appropriate scale abattoir capacity.

Sustain members are working far harder on this issue than are the NFU and AHDB (who are, in actuality, working to make the situation worse).

That makes the environmental movement, more than those we pay subs and levies to, our ally.

Sorry, I still remember Vicki Hird from Sustain making regular comments in interviews that we needed to drastically reduce red meat consumption to help with emissions. She's no friend!
 
Yeah. See, I haven't actually read it yet, just posted it last night but I glanced at it and the 85% bit stuck out like a sore thumb. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

If that's the standard of research, understanding and consideration that is going into these policies then I really do worry about the human race. I'm embarrassed to be human.
The folk “in charge” at the moment are little more than a joke.

And it’s not about Conservative, Labour, LibDem, Green etc …… It’s about level of intelligence and common sense.
 

delilah

Member
Sorry, I still remember Vicki Hird from Sustain making regular comments in interviews that we needed to drastically reduce red meat consumption to help with emissions. She's no friend!

And Vicki was wrong with that. And may well have come to realise that. And it is such a small part of this debate that it really shouldn't be allowed to get in the way of recognising the huge areas of common ground.
 

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HSENI names new farm safety champions

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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The Health and Safety Executive for Northern Ireland (HSENI) alongside the Farm Safety Partnership (FSP), has named new farm safety champions and commended the outstanding work on farm safety that has been carried out in the farming community in the last 20 years.

Two of these champions are Malcom Downey, retired principal inspector for the Agri/Food team in HSENI and Harry Sinclair, current chair of the Farm Safety Partnership and former president of the Ulster Farmers’ Union (UFU).

Improving farm safety is the key aim of HSENI’s and the FSP’s work and...
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