BPS early ?

[bobk]

I think it just shows how sceptical Conservative voting farmers have become about how they are treated by 'their' MP's.

No it shows they're a whinging bunch of fukers

 

[Steevo]

According to the Andersons bit in FW this week their estimate is that arable cropping will lose £7/ha next year.

That's compared to £677/ha profit this season, £376/ha last year and £46/ha the year before.

 

[bobk]

According to the Andersons bit in FW this week their estimate is that arable cropping will lose £7/ha next year.

That's compared to £677/ha profit this season, £376/ha last year and £46/ha the year before.

Andersons as in Enron .....

 

[czechmate]

it says wouldn't have been allowed had we still been in europe [ not sure about that ! ] clutching at straws if you ask me

That part is true I think.

They also wouldn’t have been able to slash the amount, or divert it as wildly into daft ELMS schemes either.

For the 8 years I have received the sub in France, they have made a 50% advance in October. The amount is based on the previous year, so it can cause some confusion for altering enterprises .

 

[Adeptandy]

Personally I’d rather have it all in December after it’s been checked rather than having to pay it back if I’d messed up on the forms

 

[Billboy1]

For the 8 years I have received the sub in France, they have made a 50% advance in October. The amount is based on the previous year, so it can cause some confusion for altering enterprises .

thought as much , another lie from this government and I've had a belly full of it !!

 

[Banana Bar]

Not in the long term, but in the short term it can.

See above

 

[farmerm]

They’re a bloody nightmare with their stewardship payments. Nowt for years then two years worth on the same day. Doesn’t half wreck havoc with your tax situation

shouldn't be too big a problem from tax point of view... one payment can be allocated into last years accounts as a debtor, its probably not such a great sum that it affects your tax position all that much though, especially with farmer averaging?

 

[glasshouse]

WTF
Has the penny dropped?

 

[The Seeker]

but what do you do with it?....sit on it or buy next years inputs?

This is exactly what they want you to do with it … very risky I say

 

[Green oak]

I honestly cannot believe the comments above. The RPA are doing something to help your cash flow, and you mostly are critical of this move.Do you all have such vast wealth that the BPS is just a minor inconvenience to you or have you all bought 2 yrs of N last year and not yet sold anything from 2021 harvest? For once, just once, wind your necks in and grow up.

BB

i raised this question to the Rpa about forwarding the payment. On a thread on here a couple of years ago. Glad it’s come to fruition. To many farmers we’re getting mugged off. Selling off the combine to ease cash flow.

 

[Werzle]

A smart man would use the early money to reinvest into something that makes them money…

im not smart so will probably just waste the money on a extra pen of store cattle bought a few months sooner….

People tried to do the same with covid grants/loans but stock prices went up over night and knocked alot of get rich ideas

 

[4course]

from a mainly arable farmers view i can see it as guaranteed holding the price of fert / inputs up though against that can see grain not coming onto the market thus affecting the intensive producer and holding the price of grain up for the arable man. The cost of money for 1/2 my sfp for 4 months ?, welcome as this announcment is is im not sure who its going to help , is it the farmer ,the consumer or the input trade . Lets face the gov is borrowing its own money at still low interest rates and by paying out 1/2 4 months early its not costing them much .In my own case reckon its hardly a ton of wheat im fairly sure buying fert and other inputs following this announcment will cost more than that .

 

[glasshouse]

i raised this question to the Rpa about forwarding the payment. On a thread on here a couple of years ago. Glad it’s come to fruition. To many farmers we’re getting mugged off. Selling off the combine to ease cash flow.

Scotland been doing it for years

 

[farmerm]

Not sure it was intentional but that will be the result

CF certainly got the Gov by the balls last year regards CO2 supplies.. would not be at all surprised that this announcement followed a suggestion and a little squeeze...

 

[Fat Lamb]

CF certainly got the Gov by the balls last year regards CO2 supplies.. would not be at all surprised that this announcement followed a suggestion and a little squeeze...

Exactly, it's backdoor subsidisation of the fertiliser industry by stealth.

 

[Pan mixer]

I don't care, I am very grateful for the cash flow improvement, I can carry on keeping pigs for a bit longer.

 

[glasshouse]

Exactly, it's backdoor subsidisation of the fertiliser industry by stealth.

Moan moan moan

 

[Whitewalker]

It’s sad that food producers need to depend on these payments albeit gratefully received.

 

[Vader]

Im very impressed. Well done RPA. Very helpful potentially. Good vision to see the problems ahead and reassuring that a government body has acknowledged that times are going to be challenging

Rather they froze it same rate as last year and have in december....