Brexit is destroying Britain

Widgetone

Member
Trade
Location
Westish Suffolk
May was a disgrace, was out of her depth, when she hot elected leader I thought she was going to be good despite lots saying she was very poor in her previous roles, they were proved correct and as for the election campaign, she went AWOL, it's almost as if she wanted to lose it.
Thats not exactly how I recall her moment in office, her backbenchers knifed her at every turn after the Camron poisoned chalice, so she lost any authority in her own ranks.
There then followed the purge of traditional Tories, and Boris surrounded himself with yes men and women aka payroll MPs that we enjoy today.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Thats not exactly how I recall her moment in office, her backbenchers knifed her at every turn after the Camron poisoned chalice, so she lost any authority in her own ranks.
There then followed the purge of traditional Tories, and Boris surrounded himself with yes men and women aka payroll MPs that we enjoy today.
Yep
And then those yes people got voted in
 

Ashtree

Member
Trade needs to be beneficial to both sides, and if you are a company you need customers makes no difference what side of la Manche your on.
The adults need to sit down and sort things out, politicians play to their voters instead of sorting out the issues.
Oh dear. This is EXACTLY, what Mrs. T, understood when she foresaw the incredible benefits not just to UK but to the whole of Europe, of the single market and customs union.

Lo and behold, the politicians of her time, in UK/EU, developed in incredibly efficient and enormous market, from which everybody benefited tremendously,

Then along came Farage and Bunter. The rest as they say is history.
 

robs1

Member
Oh dear. This is EXACTLY, what Mrs. T, understood when she foresaw the incredible benefits not just to UK but to the whole of Europe, of the single market and customs union.

Lo and behold, the politicians of her time, in UK/EU, developed in incredibly efficient and enormous market, from which everybody benefited tremendously,

Then along came Farage and Bunter. The rest as they say is history.
You were right up to the last bit, it should have read. Along came major, blair and cameron and sold us down the river to a united states of europe, had they asked us we might have said yes but no they promised a vote on maastricht but then didnt but implemented it anyway despite others voting against, is it any wonder we voted leave when we did get the chance, even you must see that had the EU and our own government been honest about the direction of travel AND let us and every country decide our own future then things would have been different. If the vote had been stay in the customs union but not one step beyond without another vote or to leave then the vote would have been heavily in favour of staying. The problem is the sensible voters knew you cant trust politicians, that's ALL politicians both here and in the EU
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
anyone would be out if their depth, as what you want is impossible.
i am reminded about my own relationship with my Co op. So, I got a bit fed up with these limousines, so at a meeting with our Co op I said, I am thinking of selling the limmies and getting herefords. They said, well you can do as you please but we won’t be buying them. So I kept on with the limmies. Now, if I had changed over to Hereford’s, if I took the uk stance, I would be jumping up and down and shouting unfair unfair, because I wouldn’t be able to sell my animals 🤷‍♂️
Discussing farmer owned coops and collective marketing on a UK forum is really quite pointless, British farmers do not understand how they operate for the general benefit of all, nor have they any concept of marketing.
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
I don’t think British farmers are thick f**kers at all, they prefer to act alone instead of as a collective group, which is fine if that is your preference, just don’t be surprised if the price you receive is lower because of it.
Coops aren't the answer , certainly not french ones
One thing is king in frace , subs and primes .
 

le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
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robs1

Member
So a pro eu group has produced some figures that they claim show we would be better off being in the EU, wow that's a surprise, and they say leave voters are gullible . I bet you believe that cows and sheep are responsible for global warming because the vegans have produced figures to show that too.
 

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