British friesian bulls

[som farmer]

That's a huge variation £60-£270.

Our average would be closer to £270 for Fri bull calves. Top the market on occasions

its a bigger variation, £5 to £270, there are still calves going through markets, for a fiver or less, no idea how many are 'disposed' of, that never get to market now.
However many that are worthless, it is a waste, they should have a value, but the market for them is simply not there.
The big problem with dairy calves, is they are a by-product, the important bit, is to get the cow, back in calf, and producing milk. They are a useful by-product though, and if we produce the right calf, the market will pay well for them, hence the big variation in price, and like Sid, we usually get our name in the mkt report, and its quite nice, when we do.
Cows are generally reverting back from extremes, to something more longer lasting, and stronger, which should produce a better calf. It would be better if beef semen were bought on quality, rather than price.

 

[som farmer]

Where do you send them? That’s good money.

exeter likes good strong calves, unless we sell privately, most of ours go there, the odd occasion we sell elsewhere, never seem to match exeter. Salisbury is the best mkt for young calves.
We rear and wean most of our calves, using stored colostrum, and any waste milk, gives us strong calves, worth decent money, at not a great cost, milk powder is a different equation.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

A lot of these in Ireland, 7500l cows those daughters of his we have

Do you have any pictures? Tempted to try some next time I’m looking.

 

[Walwyn]

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If of any interest to anyone on here we are selling a selection of friesian bulling heifers @ Whitland tomorrow. Genuine surplus.

 

[Dancingbrave]

Morcourt Kerevi from UK sires they say he is from the family of Morcourt Hilton he is by Karacatus a son of Hilton !!! Sounds like line breeding !!

 

[Jdunn55]

Morcourt Kerevi from UK sires they say he is from the family of Morcourt Hilton he is by Karacatus a son of Hilton !!! Sounds like line breeding !!

Hilton only appears once in his pedigree, should be absolutely fine.
Hilton doesn't even appear in his dam or gdam's pedigree either.

 

[cattow]

Hilton only appears once in his pedigree, should be absolutely fine.
Hilton doesn't even appear in his dam or gdam's pedigree either.

I agree it’s different lines of the same family, you have to go a fair way back to find the same cow

 

[som farmer]

I agree it’s different lines of the same family, you have to go a fair way back to find the same cow

is there much difference in line breeding, and inbreeding, the former being deliberate, the latter accidental.

 

[Dancingbrave]

Not as tightly bred as Chad was then ?

I agree it’s different lines of the same family, you have to go a fair way back to find the same cow

Not as tightly bred as Chad was then

 

[Jdunn55]

Not as tightly bred as Chad was then ?

Not as tightly bred as Chad was then

There's no common sires or dams in chad's immediate parentage either??

 

[Jdunn55]

3 of my bull calves, 1st by gtw, second by contender and the last one by judd.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

3 of my bull calves, 1st by gtw, second by contender and the last one by judd.

Will you keep any as bulls?

 

[Jdunn55]

Will you keep any as bulls?

All will be staying entire until have their genomic back.
Unless one of the ai companies wants the judd bull I'll keep him to serve my own heifers in 1-2 years time as he is completely unrelated to everything (my only judd calf) and his dam is my favourite cow

 

[TheRanger]

All will be staying entire until have their genomic back.
Unless one of the ai companies wants the judd bull I'll keep him to serve my own heifers in 1-2 years time as he is completely unrelated to everything (my only judd calf) and his dam is my favourite cow

if you're struggling for names, how about Newbarton Betweenthelines?

 

[Jdunn55]

if you're struggling for names, how about Newbarton Betweenthelines?

Newbarton notsurewhoiam or waitingfordna he hasn't been registered yet and I might actually have to go with Jeremy after Jeremy Kyle

 

[TheRanger]

Newbarton notsurewhoiam or waitingfordna he hasn't been registered yet and I might actually have to go with Jeremy after Jeremy Kyle

What's the cut off date for registering them out of interest?

 

[Jdunn55]

What's the cut off date for registering them out of interest?

45 days, you can go later but there's a late payment fee that increases the later they're registered

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

All will be staying entire until have their genomic back.
Unless one of the ai companies wants the judd bull I'll keep him to serve my own heifers in 1-2 years time as he is completely unrelated to everything (my only judd calf) and his dam is my favourite cow

Isn’t every cow your favourite

 

[Dancingbrave]

Doraman and Desert Orchid had the same mother

 

[cattow]

Doraman and Desert Orchid had the same mother

That’ll be 20 years before @Jdunn55 was conceived