Broken mouthed ewes on twitter

[Nithsdale]

Your own replacements will cost a little more than the fat lambs you produce, which is usually substantially less than bought in replacements. You could argue that the maternal wether lambs are likely to make less than the terminal lambs that might otherwise be sold from those ewes, which is another cost to be carried by the system.

However, it allows you to breed replacements from known ewes, and with known disease status. There are a whole host of devastating diseases that can be bought in with incoming livestock, Mv and OPA being just two that are becoming more common, neither of which are given any consideration at most breeding ewe sales.

You need a better terminal......

You need a better maternal breed


But I forgot, you like proper sheep

 

[unlacedgecko]

You need a better terminal......

Preferably a shedding one.

 

[Nithsdale]

Preferably a shedding one.

Is there such a thing?

I remember the thread asking, but I don't remember a definitive answer

 

[unlacedgecko]

Is there such a thing?

I remember the thread asking, but I don't remember a definitive answer

Im thinking dorper? Or breed the wool off a Charolais?

 

[Ysgythan]

A mule is the sheep equivalent of a Holstein cow ime,

indeed. You get out what you put in.

 

[Ysgythan]

Is there such a thing?

I remember the thread asking, but I don't remember a definitive answer

there are some peeling Texels who would have enough peeling genes to not hold back the shedding of easycares or exlamas or whatever.

 

[unlacedgecko]

there are some peeling Texels who would have enough peeling genes to not hold back the shedding of easycares or exlamas or whatever.

I think @Woolless has some sheep bred that way

 

[Ysgythan]

I think @Woolless has some sheep bred that way

any total peeler female is kept here, but I wouldn’t use a total peeler on the pedigree ewes.

 

[Woolless]

I think @Woolless has some sheep bred that way

Sure do. They bring in carcase, myomax and hybrid vigour to Easycares with little compromise on shedding ability. Obviously, an eye needs to be kept on lambing ease and feet in particular once they're in the genetic mix.

 

[Nithsdale]

Im thinking dorper? Or breed the wool off a Charolais?

No no. Keep the wool on the Char, poor buggers are soft enough!




Dorpers could be close to the holy grail... but their feet are ment to be shocking

 

[Woolless]

No no. Keep the wool on the Char, poor buggers are soft enough!




Dorpers could be close to the holy grail... but their feet are ment to be shocking

I don't think they're fantastic shedders either. If somebody fancies importing some, sorting the feet issue and getting their coats right, then I promise I'll buy a tup!

 

[Nithsdale]

I don't think they're fantastic shedders either. If somebody fancies importing some, sorting the feet issue and getting their coats right, then I promise I'll buy a tup!

Oh, are they not?


I'm with you. If they "did exactly what it says on the tin" I'd definitely be interested in them.


You just know if UK farmers got their hands on them, it'd be the black spotted they'd want and far too much emphasis would be put on the black

 

[unlacedgecko]

Oh, are they not?


I'm with you. If they "did exactly what it says on the tin" I'd definitely be interested in them.


You just know if UK farmers got their hands on them, it'd be the black spotted they'd want and far too much emphasis would be put on the black

There’s quite a few in the UK already.

 

[Nithsdale]

There’s quite a few in the UK already.

Black spots?

 

[DanM]

Preferably a shedding one.

perhaps @neilo is planning one... I hear he has joined the shedder world recently

 

[unlacedgecko]

Black spots?

Black headed dorpers. I'm quite tempted to try a few.

 

[clod hopper]

Oh, are they not?


I'm with you. If they "did exactly what it says on the tin" I'd definitely be interested in them.


You just know if UK farmers got their hands on them, it'd be the black spotted they'd want and far too much emphasis would be put on the black

The first cross with any breed throw's black lambs I'm told. Then that would be wrong too!!!

 

[Nithsdale]

The first cross with any breed throw's black lambs I'm told. Then that would be wrong too!!!

That'll be because the black spotted dorper is genetically a black sheep. The white body is actually a spot on its tail head...

 

[Nithsdale]

Black headed dorpers. I'm quite tempted to try a few.

In an unracist way.... stick to the whites

 

[neilo]

perhaps @neilo is planning one... I hear he has joined the shedder world recently

I don't see the attraction tbh. To get to the point where any of the decent terminals in the UK were to shed, and have a decent birth coat (stripping Charollais & Texels don't have a birth coat to speak of), you would have to dramatically dilute the very traits that make those terminals worth using now.
In theory, you could breed a half decent terminal back up in time with hard selection, but you'd need a big gene pool of those shedding terminals to be able to do it, as you couldn't bring blood in from elsewhere.
And all for what, sell half a dozen rams to those shedding enthusiasts that didn't want the flexibility of selling live or dead?