Bugs in wheat in store

[Chap]

Just had my first load rejected of the year this morning. 15 loads gone out no problem. Apparently bugs are a real problem everywhere this year??? So I’m told..

Grain not as cool as I would like but never had a problem before

 

[teslacoils]

Not had enough days under 90 humidity to have the fans on much.

 

[Brisel]

No bugs here but there haven't been many good cooling days & nights until recently.

Consider fitting temperature differential controlled cooling fans. You'll be amazed at how often they run when you don't expect, and how often they don't run when you'd think they would. You'll save a lot of money on electricity.

 

[Chap]

Thanks. Whats the best way to sort it? IS Kw Obisol any good? Or is it as resistant as many other insecticides nowadays?

Someone said put it through my mobile drier??

Any ideas on cost or any contacts for someone to come and sheet it and gas it that way?

Thanks

 

[D14]

Thanks. Whats the best way to sort it? IS Kw Obisol any good? Or is it as resistant as many other insecticides nowadays?

Someone said put it through my mobile drier??

Any ideas on cost or any contacts for someone to come and sheet it and gas it that way?

Thanks

It was a few years ago now but we put some smoke into the air tunnel and then put the fan on to blow it through the grain.

 

[bankrupt]

bugs are a real problem everywhere this year

Perhaps you've made an unforced error, as we have, by selling £40 or so above spot.

 

[kill]

Just had my first load rejected of the year this morning. 15 loads gone out no problem. Apparently bugs are a real problem everywhere this year??? So I’m told..

Grain not as cool as I would like but never had a problem before

Will the bugs have enough protein to make vegans sane again?

 

[Chap]

Perhaps you've made an unforced error, as we have, by selling £40 or so above spot.

I did think that. This is the first lot I sold forward for £186 per tonne. But I found bugs in the sample myself

 

[Brisel]

Thanks. Whats the best way to sort it? IS Kw Obisol any good? Or is it as resistant as many other insecticides nowadays?

Someone said put it through my mobile drier??

Any ideas on cost or any contacts for someone to come and sheet it and gas it that way?

Thanks

K Obiol is only a protectant. You need Reldan 22 or diatomaceous earth if you're going to do it yourself. To be fair, running it through a mobile drier would kill most of them. Does it have a pre cleaner?

Reldan 22 is an organophosphate, so be careful with it. I'd use a DE product like Silico Sec

 

[czechmate]

K Obiol is only a protectant. You need Reldan 22 or diatomaceous earth if you're going to do it yourself. To be fair, running it through a mobile drier would kill most of them. Does it have a pre cleaner?

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Reldan 22 is an organophosphate, so be careful with it. I'd use a DE product like Silico Sec

Ha ha, we both seem very interested in these bug threads
I can’t see how running them through a mobile dryer would kill any at all?
I put some some through the hammer mill and the are still alive afterwards.
I am having some success with DE

 

[Banana Bar]

I’m always surprised when people say they cannot cool as it’s not been cool enough. Even in August it is cold enough between 11pm and 4am. Fit a time switch and your problems will be hugely reduced.

 

[czechmate]

I’m always surprised when people say they cannot cool as it’s not been cool enough. Even in August it is cold enough between 11pm and 4am. Fit a time switch and your problems will be hugely reduced.

That’s the time to do it. If you actually have beetles it is almost a loosing battle trying to cool it as they generate heat and move around. Getting the T shirt here

 

[ashmore]

How are you cooling it? We've got pedestals (not particularly fond of them) with a temp differential switch on the fans. Get your corn down to 10deg or lower, bugs hibernate at that, and lower they can not survive. I've got a little area that went hard the other week. It was 25deg. These cold nights mean I've got it down to 5deg, and (gulp) it's sucked out the bugs.
Also I agree with putting it through the dryer. I had to do it with some yrs ago, it cooled it down, killed a lot, and I was able to spray it as it came out of the dryer as an extra precaution.
I personally don't like fumigation, after getting a firm in to do a building once, I had to replace a roof sheet a few months later, and found bugs between the sheets. I don't think you'll ever get rid of them. Best to get and keep grain below 10deg.

 

[SilliamWhale]

I had a bloke out to do the aluminium phosphine on my store last week. He charged plenty enough but I honestly.dont feel I had a choice. They could kill your bushel weight od allowed to prosper. Its a bad year for them.

 

[yellow belly]

They gravitate to the warmth so if you ventilate well when it is frosty they can walk out of the shed when it warms up
had some in a feed barley bin they walked into the fertiliser in the shed next door between the inner and the outer

mobile dryer on a frosty day would get the temperature down also dry grain to below 14

 

[czechmate]

They gravitate to the earth so if you ventilate well when it is frosty they can walk out of the shed when it warms up
had some in a feed barley bin they walked into the fertiliser in the shed next door between the inner and the outer

mobile dryer on a frosty day would get the temperature down also dry grain to below 14

Warmth?

 

[yellow belly]

Warmth?

Predictive text pia

 

[muppet]

I’m finding cooling to be difficult this year. On floor drying which took ages to get the mc down then the nights were too damp.

Now it is cool enough, but also very misty and am paranoid about sucking in moisture!!

 

[crazy_bull]

I think the bigger harvest has a bit to play here, seeing lots of heaps rammed in with grain pushers that are creating compacted areas and non compacted areas, the air is then flowing through the areas of least resistance. Often have a few heaps do it, but this year is very bad for it and relatively early in the year. a grain stirrer increases the air flow and helps keep it evenly cool.

Get the heap gassed properly, kill the little buggers.

C B

 

[Steevo]

As above, provided you have a concrete panel or steel clad store.....get a contractor to gas the heap.

I had some barley done recently after spotting bugs. Contractor out and gassed it. Sheet stayed on for the required period to do the job. The day after the sheet came off four loads went off on a boat. Not a single issue.

Couldn’t guarantee that so easily treating yourself with a mobile drier or DE.

The peace of mind alone knowing you won’t get a rejection especially when timescales are tight is worth the fee.