Burning barley off

[wellingtonfarmer]

I always get itchy feet this time and just had a look at some winter barley. It seems uneven tramlines green and parts of middles completely necked!
It also has a bit of wheat in it? Around 2 plants m2 will this be a problem? Would you bother putting some roundup on it?

 

[beefandsleep]

Just the question I am asking myself, maybe end of next week.

 

[Oat]

Normally whenever you think it is ready, leave it another 2 weeks

 

[Chae1]

Just get on with it. It needs at least a fortnight to get benefits. The amount of times I go to spray off for farmers and it should be combine in field not sprayer with glyphosate. Which is probably why they are wanting it banned as it doesn't get correct harvest interval and still on grain.

 

[gone up the hill]

Just get on with it. It needs at least a fortnight to get benefits. The amount of times I go to spray off for farmers and it should be combine in field not sprayer with glyphosate. Which is probably why they are wanting it banned as it doesn't get correct harvest interval and still on grain.

They changed the ingredients of Glyphosate last year ( without telling anyone ) and it will now need at least 3 weeks to work and ideally 4 weeks for spraying off crops!

 

[Martin87]

Really ? Surely they would need to re register ...

 

[gone up the hill]

Really ? Surely they would need to re register ...

Someone posted the changes on here but yes it has defo been changed and takes longer to work on crops like Barley.

 

[Martin87]

So your saying if we buy the same product as last year it will take longer to work ... Find this hard to believe but time will tell !

 

[gone up the hill]

So your saying if we buy the same product as last year it will take longer to work ... Find this hard to believe but time will tell !

It will work the same as last year but not the year before.

Plenty of people ( myself included ) posted on here saying that the crops were not giving up any where as quickly as normal and it turned out that they had changed it, ( someone posted on here the changes )

 

[Badshot]

Someone posted the changes on here but yes it has defo been changed and takes longer to work on crops like Barley.

Can you point us in the direction of that please? There's dozens of different glyphosate products on the market, most with slightly different additives. It's unlikely they've all changed.

 

[DRC]

What's wrong with letting barley ripen naturally. It's only July, save your pennies!

 

[Martin87]

Yes I would like to read to

 

[gone up the hill]

Can you point us in the direction of that please? There's dozens of different glyphosate products on the market, most with slightly different additives. It's unlikely they've all changed.

I cant recall what thread it was on tbh.

 

[Chae1]

They changed the ingredients of Glyphosate last year ( without telling anyone ) and it will now need at least 3 weeks to work and ideally 4 weeks for spraying off crops!

Why did they tell you! ?

 

[Badshot]

It will work the same as last year but not the year before.

Plenty of people ( myself included ) posted on here saying that the crops were not giving up any where as quickly as normal and it turned out that they had changed it, ( someone posted on here the changes )

Glyphosate has frequently been slow to burn OSR off, some years it's very quick, others not so. That's more to do with weather and crop condition than anything.
I seem to remember something about the tallow amine containing products not being allowed for desiccation. Maybe that's it, but any agronomist worth his salt would have added other conditioners to counter that anyway.

 

[Badshot]

Where's @Brisel when he's needed?

 

[gone up the hill]

Why did they tell you! ?

It has defo been changed, it wasn't me that found/ posted the info to verify that it had changed.

 

[beefandsleep]

What's wrong with letting barley ripen naturally. It's only July, save your pennies!

That extra week or two is worth a lot to a crop of turnips, as is the lower drying cost and the not having to turn straw on headlands because it's dry enough to bale behind the combine. Speed and ease of combining, there are many advantages

 

[Martin87]

 

[Badshot]

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That was quick
As long as conditioners like gly fast or similar are used it ought not make any difference.