Business in farmyard

[Grassman]

My son and I run a small retail business out of a portacabin in the yard. Very low footfall. Mainly mail order.
Now the planners have decided to get involved which I expected.
Is it a no hoper to get permission? We are green belt.

 

[Steevo]

@George from SJM Planning

 

[Eolas Álainn]

When you say looking to get permission, you mean to make a more permanent structure than a portacabin in your yard? If so green belts can be tricky but you could argue that since there is a structure already there and so it doesn't affect urban sprawl... That would be my angle anyways!

 

[Hard Graft]

If they grumble put in for say you put in for permitted development of the yard for houses as they won’t want a new village in there green belt

 

[Clive]

Apply for change of use - they need a very good reason to say no as supposed to be encouraging diversification and rural economy under planning policy

 

[Exfarmer]

My son and I run a small retail business out of a portacabin in the yard. Very low footfall. Mainly mail order.
Now the planners have decided to get involved which I expected.
Is it a no hoper to get permission? We are green belt.

Much will depend on how much the neighbours complain and the state of the local roads.

 

[delilah]

Given that the world and his son are now 'working from home' I would think that planning departments are going to have to take a very light touch to all of this if the economy is to even stutter back to life.

 

[anzani]

My son and I run a small retail business out of a portacabin in the yard. Very low footfall. Mainly mail order.
Now the planners have decided to get involved which I expected.
Is it a no hoper to get permission? We are green belt.

If its just use of 1 cabin, consider the implications of lifting it onto a trolley/trailer?

 

[robs1]

Just apply for change of use, go overboard on the financial pressure of farming and you need this to survive, stress its sustainable etc etc

 

[Grassman]

When you say looking to get permission, you mean to make a more permanent structure than a portacabin in your yard? If so green belts can be tricky but you could argue that since there is a structure already there and so it doesn't affect urban sprawl... That would be my angle anyways!

No we don't want anything bigger than whats there. I guess its the business they want us to get permission for

 

[Warp Land Farmer]

No we don't want anything bigger than whats there. I guess its the business they want us to get permission for

What do you retail?

 

[ShooTa]

only thing with change of use - is changing it back../.

 

[Clive]

only thing with change of use - is changing it back../.

don't apply for change to business, go for business combined (B2 i think). that way you can use for ag or business so no worries re changing back if required

 

[Grassman]

What do you retail?

Trials motorbikes

 

[anzani]

Trials motorbikes

Oh you mean 'herdsmens mobility m/cycles-especially adapted for the supervision of livestock, etc"

 

[PSQ]

No we don't want anything bigger than whats there. I guess its the business they want us to get permission for

Are they lining you up to pay business rates?

 

[Glass half full]

if your running the bikes and creating a lot of noise it may be a harder sell with the planners

 

[Grassman]

if your running the bikes and creating a lot of noise it may be a harder sell with the planners

No noise or bikes running really.

 

[Adam@Rumen]

Portacabin not classed as temporary structure?

 

[Grassman]

Portacabin not classed as temporary structure?

I think anything that is intended not to move is classed as permanent.