Buy machinery now or wait until after Brexit date?

[Martin Holden]

That sounds reassuring and authoritative even though it is at odds with all the expert opinions. I wonder what you base that nonsense on? Especially our export prediction, when it is most probable that without a deal our exports will be subject to stinging tariffs while our imports seem to be promised to be tariff free.
We are already losing export markets for out beef and Canada, for instance, has broken off trade deal talks because it calculates that there is a good chance that Boris will stand by his word and not introduce tariffs against them. Make no mistake, they are unlikely to reciprocate, hence the breakup of such talks.

It is by no means certain that we will exit on 31st Oct either. Hammond, and very many MP's are dead against it, certainly with no EU deal in place. Parliament will not allow its authority to be usurped by the Prime Minister. It is very unlikely to happen. It is also a mistake to assume that 'out' is the default position if nothing is done one way or another. That is not actually the case.

If imports are going to made tarriff free or very low, export tariffs should match otherwise a deal can’t be made surely. I know all about WTF but it has to balance out. Should the EU make it difficult for UK goods, we, if we leave with no deal have to reciprocate on their goods. Otherwise we are stupid.

 

[Martin Holden]

What about a campaign to embarrass the Brexit drivers into re patriating their investments to show some spine and lead by example?

 

[More to life]

Corbyn or no deal ? know which I would choose

Yes I think Corbyn is why this won’t happen.

 

[bobk]

If imports are going to made tarriff free or very low, export tariffs should match otherwise a deal can’t be made surely. I know all about WTF but it has to balance out. Should the EU make it difficult for UK goods, we, if we leave with no deal have to reciprocate on their goods. Otherwise we are stupid.

They don't have to reciprocate , and probably won't ...., because they're mission is to inflict pain .....

 

[bobk]

Yes I think Corbyn is why this won’t happen.

I agree , but the likes of Hammond Blair and Grieve are totally undermining the UK negotiation stance .

 

[Wellytrack]

Yes, and Basildon is a mere assembly plant, but it's a start.

Muddies the judgment of what patriotism is however. Like it or not our relationship with the Euro currency is irretrievably interlinked as regards to machinery, less so exports obviously.

 

[More to life]

I agree , but the likes of Hammond Blair and Grieve are totally undermining the UK negotiation stance .

Not so sure about that they have to succeed in stopping brexit,if they fail Boris could have the perfect but small window to get a deal.

 

[Drillman]

Parliament can try all the tactics they want to delay, or stop Brexit but unless article 50 is revoked or the EU 27 agree to an extension we’re out.


Anything else is pretty irrelevant now.

Certainly nothing parliament can do to stop the EU 27 voting a further extension down

 

[thesilentone]

it can only be extended if the EU agree to an extension I think ? and didn't they say last time that there would be no more extensions ? is that correct ?

Brexit on the 31st October is the default I believe ?? unless UK government agrees on revoke or extension (no hope they will agree on anything !) and then the EU accept what they agree to ask for (also no hope of that !)


more delays are the worst case scenario now IMO - we need to just get on with it and deal with whatever

The new EU head honcho (the lady) has indicated they may accept a further extension, however I don't see it happening. The card they will play is " Mrs May has already agreed the withdrawal agreement" however, this flies in the face of British Democracy, which is a buggers muddle at the moment. The only way is hard-ball, however it was never going to be any other.

Although there is division in our Country, the politics are interesting, and go's to show why most large cooperatives fail.

 

[holywell farmer]

Are you depending on your sfp money , if so it might be gone . What happens then.

Isn't sfp money guaranteed until 2022 ?

 

[thesilentone]

Parliament can try all the tactics they want to delay, or stop Brexit but unless article 50 is revoked or the EU 27 agree to an extension we’re out.


Anything else is pretty irrelevant now.

Certainly nothing parliament can do to stop the EU 27 voting a further extension down

in theory, yes, in reality no.

It is not democratic, it's like animal farm, some Countries have more votes than others, we could get our own way now and again, if we convinced only two or three others to vote with us, if they carried enough proxy votes.

 

[bobk]

Isn't sfp money guaranteed until 2022 ?

It is in the UK , same as citizens rights for EU nationals ............ what about expats rights in Europe ? a deafening silence

 

[ILovebaling]

I've changed a tractor, bought a fresh pick up and thinking of changing square baler. No SFP so will be fine unless people stop paying their bills.

 

[bobk]

I've changed a tractor, bought a fresh pick up and thinking of changing square baler. No SFP so will be fine unless people stop paying their bills.

Life will go on , even with the snowflakes ...

 

[holywell farmer]

Life will go on , even with the snowflakes ...

You mean remainers

 

[Drillman]

You mean remoaners

Post fixed

 

[holywell farmer]

Post fixed

Thanks

 

[bobk]

You mean remainers

No .

 

[danpwll]

just flog that deutz n budgie cage and get a fushion!!!

 

[Martin Holden]

They don't have to reciprocate , and probably won't ...., because they're mission is to inflict pain .....

It can work both ways.