Can i sell my feed mixes

[Zippy768]

Been ask if I can provide some of our feed mix to a customer who has been purchasing cattle off us.
Would add up to a fair tonnage over 12 months.
Is is legal to do this? Made up of five ingredients. All bought it bar the Barley.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I would think you’ll need a licence

 

[Agrivator]

If you want to play by the book, have a discussion with your local ''Trading Standards'' officer.

But what do you mean by a fair tonnage? And if it helps, what would be the position if you and your neighbour were in some sort of cooperative - theoretical obviously.

 

[betweenthelines]

Just tell the guy what you use in the mixes. If he wants to he can buy the ingredients the same as you do.

If you supply him he might sue you if the cattle don't do well (or if one drops dead)

 

[Fendt516profi]

Sounds like he house's your cattle for you and provides the labour you provide the feed and pay him a sum around the difference between what you would sell the cattle to someone and what they would sell them at when finished

 

[deleted user 837354]

Supplying feeds to another person is a nightmare if you intend to do it by the book (i.e legally). For starters, you would need a way of weighing the ingredients and keep a record of every mix made and sold. Then you have all the UFAS requirements, which are a nightmare.

Then you will have the issues if a beast goes ill, drops dead or he finds metal in the feed etc etc etc. It's a PITA.

 

[Zippy768]

I would think you’ll need a licence

That's what I would imagine.

 

[Zippy768]

If you want to play by the book, have a discussion with your local ''Trading Standards'' officer.

But what do you mean by a fair tonnage? And if it helps, what would be the position if you and your neighbour were in some sort of cooperative - theoretical obviously.

It would be 10ton ish a year.
He isnt close enough to be a neighbour

 

[Zippy768]

Sounds like he house's your cattle for you and provides the labour you provide the feed and pay him a sum around the difference between what you would sell the cattle to someone and what they would sell them at when finished

Nop.
We sell him cattle, each month. Once they leave we dont see them again

 

[deleted user 837354]

It would be 10ton ish a year.
He isnt close enough to be a neighbour

Gentlemen's agreement maybe possible on the QT but he will probably be breaking his own farm assurance terms by buying in feeds from a non-assured source that does not fit with UFAS scheme requirements etc etc etc.

 

[Zippy768]

Supplying feeds to another person is a nightmare if you intend to do it by the book (i.e legally). For starters, you would need a way of weighing the ingredients and keep a record of every mix made and sold. Then you have all the UFAS requirements, which are a nightmare.

Then you will have the issues if a beast goes ill, drops dead or he finds metal in the feed etc etc etc. It's a PITA.

Yep, I reckon you're right.
I'll veto the idea

 

[Werzle]

Been ask if I can provide some of our feed mix to a customer who has been purchasing cattle off us.
Would add up to a fair tonnage over 12 months.
Is is legal to do this? Made up of five ingredients. All bought it bar the Barley.

Only 10t, crack on. If it was 100's of tonnes then it would need doing legally, whatever that means. Everybodys scared of there shadows these days it seems.

 

[Agrivator]

It would be 10ton ish a year.
He isnt close enough to be a neighbour

For 10t it's not worth the time and effort. Tell him to buy some decent beef nuts instead.

 

[Zippy768]

For 10t it's not worth the time and effort. Tell him to buy some decent beef nuts instead.

The idea behind it is for gradual change of diet. He feels they are losing growth for too long

 

[T7.wab]

Just put the cost on to the cattle he buys. Nobody needs to know?

 

[michael N123]

If it’s only 10ton a year is he buying it in bags/totes Be for cash won’t it

 

[blackisleboy]

The idea behind it is for gradual change of diet. He feels they are losing growth for too long

Why don't you do the change of diet before they leave your place.....
We do a soft weaning, transfer to the buyers diet and do the vaccinations for our buyer. Works really well, with little check to the calves and smooth transfer.
At a price of course....

 

[Al R]

The idea behind it is for gradual change of diet. He feels they are losing growth for too long

For 10t, sell him the “mix” as expensive “barley”? There are thousands of ways of skinning the cat.

 

[Sharpy]

Every 10 cattle sold comes with a free tote of blend. The fact that the cattle are each 20 quid dearer is neither here nor there.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Why not just finish the cattle yourself and save any fannying about