CAT hydralic pipes for a TH62 - specifications

[PuG]

Good morning, I've got several hydraulic pipes leaking on our CAT TH62 - to buy directly from CAT is vastly too expensive, I can have them made locally apart from the slow turn around accept CAT won't supply me with pipe specifications (lengths/dia/fitting sizes). I own both the work shop manuals and parts list and again neither have the specs. Obviously CAT dealerships themselves do - does anyone here have access or could point me in the right direction to buy the correct manual etc? just to remove them to measure, refit and wait for the new pipes to be made up is ridicules and I have allot of perished ones waiting to go inside the main bundle under the engine.

Cheers, James

 

[ACEngineering]

Good morning, I've got several hydraulic pipes leaking on our CAT TH62 - to buy directly from CAT is vastly too expensive, I can have them made locally apart from the slow turn around accept CAT won't supply me with pipe specifications (lengths/dia/fitting sizes). I own both the work shop manuals and parts list and again neither have the specs. Obviously CAT dealerships themselves do - does anyone here have access or could point me in the right direction to buy the correct manual etc? just to remove them to measure, refit and wait for the new pipes to be made up is ridicules and I have allot of perished ones waiting to go inside the main bundle under the engine.

Cheers, James

You wont get that info anywhere.

Dealers wont know it or be able to access it.

You will just have to take them off and get made to pattern.

 

[PuG]

Thanks - I don't see how there allowed to get away with it. Do you get the same problem with Manitou?

Not about to jump out and buy a replacement - very happy with our CAT but getting buried in maintenance. Is there any equivalent you would recommend of the same style of vintage/capability other then Caterpillar. We have been offered a older Manitou for 8k thats been living in a yard doing light work which must be early 2000's.

 

[Phil P]

Why such a slow turn around on getting the hose manufactured? I can get 90% of fittings within the hour or next day at worst.
If they have to order the fittings can you not just take one of the easy pipes off to get the fittings matched up and ordered?

 

[Timbo]

Local ag merchant will make new pipes to a pattern whilst i wait, why can't yours ?

 

[john432]

If the Cat pipes are that expensive, buy your own press and make them yourself.

 

[Phil P]

Local ag merchant will make new pipes to a pattern whilst i wait, why can't yours ?

Cat do use there own style of fittings so not everyone will carry them in stock, they’re an industrial fitting rather than a standard metric, bsp, jic etc.

 

[PuG]

Local ag merchant will make new pipes to a pattern whilst i wait, why can't yours ?

Our local merchant as Phil mentioned doesn't carry the stock of the face seals which CAT uses (and there incredibly slow) - I had thought of the Parker conversion kits to BSPP which case I can order online through someone like FlowFit.

Yes I would like our own crimping machine and Dad and myself discussed it over the years, buts its forking out for one initially - I don't know what is a good one is to have with a decent range of swages.

 

[Netherfield]

Our local merchant as Phil mentioned doesn't carry the stock of the face seals which CAT uses (and there incredibly slow) - I had thought of the Parker conversion kits to BSPP which case I can order online through someone like FlowFit.

Yes I would like our own crimping machine and Dad and myself discussed it over the years, buts its forking out for one initially - I don't know what is a good one is to have with a decent range of swages.

Can you get hold of the face seals if you make your own?

 

[Matthew Britton]

Our local merchant as Phil mentioned doesn't carry the stock of the face seals which CAT uses (and there incredibly slow) - I had thought of the Parker conversion kits to BSPP which case I can order online through someone like FlowFit.

Yes I would like our own crimping machine and Dad and myself discussed it over the years, buts its forking out for one initially - I don't know what is a good one is to have with a decent range of swages.

Look on eBay, I found mine for a few hundred quid before I left to come here, I bought a selection of fittings from hydraulic megastore and have so far made up about 4 hoses this year, I run mainly older equipment so I think it is important to be able to do as much maintenance myself as possible. In the scheme of things it is not a lot of money spread out over the next 30 years.

 

[Matthew Britton]

Can you get hold of the face seals if you make your own?

You should find them on line quite easily if you know what they are called. Try hydraulic Megastore the website is quite helpful I find.

 

[Rust]

Buy the fittings yourself and then go to local man ?

 

[ACEngineering]

Why such a slow turn around on getting the hose manufactured? I can get 90% of fittings within the hour or next day at worst.
If they have to order the fittings can you not just take one of the easy pipes off to get the fittings matched up and ordered?

He's in France everything's slow over there

 

[ACEngineering]

Thanks - I don't see how there allowed to get away with it. Do you get the same problem with Manitou?

Not about to jump out and buy a replacement - very happy with our CAT but getting buried in maintenance. Is there any equivalent you would recommend of the same style of vintage/capability other then Caterpillar. We have been offered a older Manitou for 8k thats been living in a yard doing light work which must be early 2000's.

They all require maintenance! if you go by HSE all hydraulic hoses should be replaced every 10 years!

The only manufacturer i know off that used to list the hose length was JCB but only on the dealer parts look up, and it was only in the part description and not all hoses had it and didn't always have the dia of hose either. It didn't tell you what size or type of fitting was on the end of it either. Was more for an identification rather than spec to make one yourself. I think if you look on the customer on line jcb parts look up it wont tell you the length of hose? they even go to the trouble of stopping you using copy and paste on there site! which is pointless really, like no one can use a pen and paper these days to write it down then retype it in google and see what turns up

Why do you think a manufacture would want to or be required to give that info out? they designed the machine so why would they make it easier for people not to buy genuine hoses/parts?

 

[Vincent]

Cat can break down the hose into fittings and hose length. The hose pressure will be marked on the hose so you know what spec you need. The couplings are flat face orfs. How many hoses do you need? . If not many I can break them down if given the part number. Cat use s.i.s for parts and h.i.s for hoses.

 

[collywol]

They're O R F S fittings . Our pipe man calls them John deere fittings.

 

[john432]

Have a look on Parquip hydraulics web site.. If any one can find Italian fittings and hose cheaper.. then I'd like to know. Plus the excellent service.

 

[Green&Steam]

Look on eBay, I found mine for a few hundred quid before I left to come here, I bought a selection of fittings from hydraulic megastore and have so far made up about 4 hoses this year, I run mainly older equipment so I think it is important to be able to do as much maintenance myself as possible. In the scheme of things it is not a lot of money spread out over the next 30 years.

If you make up your own hoses for lifting equipment are they Lola and HSC compliant?

 

[MF-ANDY]

They're O R F S fittings . Our pipe man calls them John deere fittings.

This

 

[shumungus]

If sourcing the ends are so much hassle for the OP why not just split the ferrules off the old pipes and re use the old ends with new ferrules on the new hoses?