Challenges , Attacks and visions for the future

[Foregoneconclusion]

I was having a chat with a reporter today who is coming to do a bit of filming in a few weeks..

Amongst other stuff she was interested to hear about dairy farmers in wales ( as it is a wales network tv show) about our views on the challenges, attacks and more positively the solution/ visions for the future.. for our industry.

She was referring to the veganury and the climate change brickbats being flung at us... as the recent attacks..

She was wondering what our biggest challenges might be and how we might deal with them.. like prices, our public image both locally (neighbours) and in the wider area.. political arguements etc..

And visions- or how we see our businesses.. Of course i'm an organic farmer so went off on my particular tack.. !!

So i'd really appreciate if you'd chip in with some thoughts! I want to present a balanced view and don't really want to annoy my fellow dairy farmers!

(assuming anyone watches itv wales...!)

 

[Foregoneconclusion]

I never took dairy farmers as shy...

 

[vantage]

Remind her vegans are 1% of the population, from the noise they make you’d think it was 99%.
Get your facts about why ruminant farming is a NECESSITY for a virtuous food cycle and healthy soils full of OM.
Milk is a SUPERFOOD, packed full of nutrients, minerals and vitamins, that is highly digestible.
UK milk is at the very pinnacle of standards in the World.

 

[Bald Rick]

Tell her that our biggest wish is that incomers would f**k off back to where they came from ... speed dialling frwnys

 

[tepapa]

Potential bigger challenge is future trade deals with whoever and imported food from counties with lower standards whilst we are expected to produce food to the highest standards.

 

[Beef farmer]

Biggest challenge will be people

 

[Blue.]

Biggest challenge will be staff.

 

[vantage]

Biggest challenge are staff!

Only joking!
Mind you one of the milkers drove over one of our corgi bitches this morning.

 

[Blue.]

Only joking!
Mind you one of the milkers drove over one of our corgi bitches this morning.

Didn't realise you were royalty.?

 

[Treg]

What I find really annoying is when the media state Livestock farming is 24% of Global Emissions, it's not , Agriculture is 24% of Global emissions, livestock is a approximately 8% with the ability to sequestered 20% of that figure.
Could you get across to her as a industry we would like the correct figures used.
Oh & if livestock is a 1/3 of Agricultural emissions doesn't that mean the other 2/3 are plant based?

 

[davidroberts30]

The upcoming proposed NVZ type thingy will impact 99%of farmers hard in pembs/wales

 

[Foregoneconclusion]

What I find really annoying is when the media state Livestock farming is 24% of Global Emissions, it's not , Agriculture is 24% of Global emissions, livestock is a approximately 8% with the ability to sequestered 20% of that figure.
Could you get across to her as a industry we would like the correct figures used.
Oh & if livestock is a 1/3 of Agricultural emissions doesn't that mean the other 2/3 are plant based?

Thankyou..she is going to ask about farming and global warming...I'm going to brush up on my greenhouse gas emmisions numbers.. where did you get the info above from?

 

[vantage]

Didn't realise you were royalty.?

Only in my mind!

 

[Spudley]

I'm sorry about your dog ?

 

[vantage]

I'm sorry about your dog ?

She’s at the vet on painkillers and anti inflammatory, wife spoke to vet 10 mins ago and she’s sitting up and tried to get up. Not breathing 100% right yet, lungs badly bruised but looking more hopeful.

 

[Treg]

Thankyou..she is going to ask about farming and global warming...I'm going to brush up on my greenhouse gas emmisions numbers.. where did you get the info above from?

I'm not sure if it was this site but it does say 24% which is one of the figures the Anti livestock groups use but it doesn't break down the 24% by Agriculture sector

Global Greenhouse Gas Overview | US EPA

Includes information on global greenhouse gas emissions trends, and by type of gas, by source, and by country.

www.epa.gov

There was a discussion on another thread that there are so many emission figures published that its difficult to know which one to use but this week Edinburgh University was using 24% and Tesco magazine quoted 24% but they attribute it to Livestock when most actually say Livestock is a 1/3 of Agricultural emissions.
I'll see if I can find any better reports for you.

 

[white_stuffed]

24% is a global fig. from the latest IPCC stats.
Here is a link to the EU emissions which is 9.58% (enteric=ruminant livestock).

Archive:Agri-environmental indicator - greenhouse gas emissions - Statistics Explained

This indicator provides an overview of greenhouse gas emissions in the EU, complemented by information on definitions, measurement methods and context allowing a correct interpretation.

ec.europa.eu

The next IPCC report might/should take on board the revised metric which is being developed for methane, which downgrades it as a greenhouse gas because it is a short lived.
@Chips is a carbon guru, as is @holwellcourtfarm https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index...rming-and-land-use.308532/reply&quote=6739771
Statistics/metrics re water consumption are equally confusing but this image is helpful.
(For some more concise arguments I also like @delilah teachers' worksheet) https://d1hu4133i4rt3z.cloudfront.net/attachments/837/837610-a8843a24cbbe311bb2e1cfc1252a3cf5.docx

 

[som farmer]

the biggest problem we face, are kneejerk reactions from politicians, to complaints by the well intentioned, but uninformed, electorate. Couple that, with large industries, looking to pass their emissions to someone else, we are the problem !

 

[coomoo]

Up here slurry/nvz carbon so environmental. Antibiotic usage only going to get tighter. Distribution of support payments, doesn’t really affect me but a lot of businesses must really relay on it going by last regional NFU meeting

 

[som farmer]

changing times, changing rules, and no one really knows how, yet, But a good time to examine the way you farm, could be same, better, or worse, it's the looking that's important.