Climate myths

Not really. It's every university in the world, the IPCC (made up of the world's leading scientists including from countries which have a lot to lose from reducing fossil fuel use), it's NASA, the Royal Society... Every credible scientific and research organisation says climate change is being substantially caused by human activity.

On the other side you've got self published cranks.

There is no contest in credibility. That doesn't make it certain but for the layperson it essentially does. It's perfectly legitimate to question net zero, on how we should adapt to global warming rather than go all out to reduce fossil fuels or whatever. But on the pure science you are on the vanishing minority viewpoint with no real basis for doing so.

That's why I likened it tot he MMR vaccine. A false equivalence like you are making 'oh they're both doctors' caused (and continues to cause) significant harm.


Nobel prize winner for physics, 3 times presidential leader for Science in the USA & currently Princeton Carbon Laser Scientist etc - who you state are "Cranks"

Hmmm, nope.

You are a crank.
 

Charles.

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Yeah I can't rationalise with someone who has essentially dived straight into conspiracy theories.
I disagree, it's a proven fact the WHO, who can't be elected or unelected and want a dictatorship and tell world countries what to do over medical matters. It was once considered conspiracy theory nonsense and supposedly debunked. It's now fact.

I totally disagree I've dived straight into conspiracy theories, I've done my homework.
 
I always find that interesting, I would like to read your supporting evidence the smoking gun that the trillion-dollar fossil fuel industry has failed to find?

because if it existed, i am sure they would be shouting about it. the fact they have everything on the line and yet do not produce the evidence that supports your position, that we and they are not to blame, has always seemed strange to me.

so, i will agree to disagree with you, as I have yet to see evidence that lets us think we are blameless.


Just watch the video if you are interested

Whilst none of us can claim any of the video is 100% the truth, the points they make are significant enough not to be ignored.

A lot of which I thought were significant many years ago.

Why is there any "Blame" ? Who cares who is to "Blame" for anything - the question is if there is cause for alarm or if the current temperatures are in any way unnatural or hyperbole.

Temperatures & CO2 levels are both natural & well within Earth limits - whereas temperature readings used by alarmists relate mostly to urban areas.
 

HatsOff

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Mixed Farmer
I disagree, it's a proven fact the WHO who can't be elected or unelected and want a dictatorship and tell world countries what to do over medical matters. It was once considered conspiracy theory nonsense and supposedly debunked. It's now fact.

I totally disagree I've dived straight into conspiracy theories, I've done my homework.
I mean.... Can you hear yourself? This is textbook conspiracy theory talk.
 
I mean.... Can you hear yourself? This is textbook conspiracy theory talk.


It's so funny to see someone so desperate to prove someone else using guilt as a weapon - badly at that.

Even if he was a "Conspiracy theorist", is he correct or not - even on a very simple point concerning "Cranks" you are millions of miles off the mark.
 

HatsOff

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It's so funny to see someone so desperate to prove someone else using guilt as a weapon - badly at that.

Even if he was a "Conspiracy theorist", is he correct or not - even on a very simple point concerning "Cranks" you are millions of miles off the mark.
They just said the world health organisation wants to have a dictatorship.

I do not wish to shame them but I felt I need to point out they are talking about conspiracy theories while claiming not to be a conspiracy theorist.
 
They just said the world health organisation wants to have a dictatorship.

I do not wish to shame them but I felt I need to point out they are talking about conspiracy theories while claiming not to be a conspiracy theorist.


Either the legislation is within the WHO documentation or it is not

Do you know the answer ? Because it's easy to find
 

HatsOff

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Mixed Farmer
It's funny the generation before me used to say don't believe everything you read in the paper/on TV. Yet that same generation lap up YouTube videos and alt websites like cat nip.
 

Charles.

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Arable Farmer
It's funny the generation before me used to say don't believe everything you read in the paper/on TV. Yet that same generation lap up YouTube videos and alt websites like cat nip.
So you think an MP for over ten years, in the House of Commons is an idiot, liar, laughing stock etc. committing electoral suicide in his constituency , that Dr John Campbell is an idiot and liar and fully discredit himself in the process, the WHO document has been faked or misinterpreted by Campbell ?
 
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HatsOff

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Reuters is own by a Billionaire who is renkowned for his Far Left ideology

Why are you using sources other than the original ?
Because Dr John Campbell has history spreading misinformation, whereas Reuters is a credible reporting service which has multiple links to the misinformation on the topic you are discussing.
 

HatsOff

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So you think an MP for over ten years, in the House of Commons is an idiot, liar etc. committing electoral suicide in his constituency , that Dr John Campbell is an idiot and liar and fully discredit himself in the process, the WHO document has been faked by Campbell ?
That's putting words into my mouth.
 

Charles.

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That's putting words into my mouth.
Ok so you are happy to agree with this.
Because Dr John Campbell has history spreading misinformation, whereas Reuters is a credible reporting service which has multiple links to the misinformation on the topic you are discussing.
I suspect that's what the controlled media want you to think. I find John Campbell and Andrew Bridgen credible despite media sources saying otherwise with questionable information. There are others saying the same thing, not just these two. Unfortunately I don't find you credible now and no doubt you will say the same about me 😀
 
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Because Dr John Campbell has history spreading misinformation, whereas Reuters is a credible reporting service which has multiple links to the misinformation on the topic you are discussing.


Again, regardless of who is involved the question is always if the information is correct or not.

I don't base anything off the opinion of someone fostered by others - especially by Billionaires owning media outlets who lets face it make a lot of money at the expense of Billions of poor people.
 

HatsOff

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Ok so you are happy to agree with this.

I suspect that's what the controlled media want you to think. I find John Campbell and Andrew Bridgen credible despite media sources saying otherwise with questionable information. Unfortunately I don't find you credible now and no doubt you will say the same about me 😀
No I didn't say it, why would I agree with that?

Anyway seems like you've figured out I've got a brain implant from Boots pharmacy. All hail the WHO world government etc etc
 

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