Collie pup discipline

[MsA]

I'm after some advice with regards to collie pups and how to discipline them. I have an 8 week old and so far she's responding well to me, knows her name, sit and here, but she's still a monkey as pups are. She'll be used for hill and park work.
Admittedly I'm quite soft but I want to know how to be firm with her without leaving her scared. My colleagues are much quicker tempered than I am hence looking for advice from a broaded audience. My other bitch is 4 and fully trained when I got her so I'm quite confident with her. Ta!

 

[beardface]

I'm after some advice with regards to collie pups and how to discipline them. I have an 8 week old and so far she's responding well to me, knows her name, sit and here, but she's still a monkey as pups are. She'll be used for hill and park work.
Admittedly I'm quite soft but I want to know how to be firm with her without leaving her scared. My colleagues are much quicker tempered than I am hence looking for advice from a broaded audience. My other bitch is 4 and fully trained when I got her so I'm quite confident with her. Ta!

Clicker and dry dog food for treats. Used it on my current pup and worked a treat. Still got a couple of bad habits (jumping up etc.) But he's a bit puppy hyper at times still.

 

[Fellstoflats]

A good growl and a light shake from the scruff has always worked for me. They soon learn that commands growled at them mean 'I'll not ask twice.."!

 

[Castle Farm]

You NEVER hit or scruff a collie pup. Your voice is enough. The dog will be your best friend and work mate and people that think ill treatment works need a kick in the ballocks..

 

[kfpben]

I growl like a dog when they’re bad.
Seems to work and plus I quite enjoy behaving like a five year old and making animal noises.

 

[unlacedgecko]

You NEVER hit or scruff a collie pup. Your voice is enough. The dog will be your best friend and work mate and people that think ill treatment works need a kick in the ballocks..

Varies from pup to pup. Just like people some can be sensitive and respond very well to a harsh word. Whereas others are hard headed and need a bit more.

 

[gwi1890]

All you need to do at this point is build her confidence take her with you everywhere build her up to be confident around you and different noises get her comfortable in the back of the pickup and take her on the quad sometimes , easy to ruin dogs at that age

 

[Guleesh]

A good growl and a light shake from the scruff has always worked for me. They soon learn that commands growled at them mean 'I'll not ask twice.."!

That's exactly what their mother would do if their behaviour warranted it.

 

[toquark]

Not sure about collies but trained plenty labs and spaniels and I'd definitely second a good growl with a firm grasp of the scruff works wonders without hurting or traumatising the dog.

 

[gwi1890]

That's exactly what their mother would do if their behaviour warranted it.

yes but it might be to late by the time you get your message across no point growling at a dog if he’s running away from you all your doing is teaching to ignore you

 

[Guleesh]

yes but it might be to late by the time you get your message across no point growling at a dog if he’s running away from you all your doing is teaching to ignore you

The earlier the better, If a pup is taking the pee and getting away with it then then the longer you allow it to continue without being checked then the harder it will be to correct. It's true that some pups don't need it at all, they just need confidence.

 

[unlacedgecko]

Never call a dog to you to punish it.

 

[MsA]

All you need to do at this point is build her confidence take her with you everywhere build her up to be confident around you and different noises get her comfortable in the back of the pickup and take her on the quad sometimes , easy to ruin dogs at that age

You NEVER hit or scruff a collie pup. Your voice is enough. The dog will be your best friend and work mate and people that think ill treatment works need a kick in the ballocks..

You NEVER hit or scruff a collie pup. Your voice is enough. The dog will be your best friend and work mate and people that think ill treatment works need a kick in the ballocks..

You NEVER hit or scruff a collie pup. Your voice is enough. The dog will be your best friend and work mate and people that think ill treatment works need a kick in the ballocks..

This is my thinking too, but they sometimes have a different approach at work.

 

[Cowmansam]

Just remember it’s your pup and you train it your way don’t let anyone else lay a hand to it

 

[gwi1890]

Just remember it’s your pup and you train it your way don’t let anyone else lay a hand to it

Why ? Getting used to different people will only benefit the dog if of course not allowed to build bad habits, I remember a crew of us going to a reputable handler for training us and our dogs sometimes he’d take over and and the dog would work 10 times as well as he was actually practicing pressure and release and stoping the dog to correct it, rather than screaming at it

 

[Cowmansam]

I meant in the manner of someone knocking the dog about which is what I think the op is trying to say without saying

 

[kernow1]

You NEVER hit or scruff a collie pup. Your voice is enough. The dog will be your best friend and work mate and people that think ill treatment works need a kick in the ballocks..

If you think picking a dog up by the scruff is "ill treatment" you must make sure to stop the mother carrying her puppies around! What next.......

 

[Dry Rot]

Interesting discussion! I am certain of one thing, a newsgroup is not the best place to train a dog!

An amateur dog trainer once told me, dog training is straight forward. You just punish the bad and reward the good. So I asked him, so why do all wild animals teach their young through play? I got no answer.

Maybe we will make better progress in this discussion if we can clarify exactly what it is the training lesson is intended to achieve? What specifically do you want the dog to do? In my experience, dogs are incredibly smart and it's us, the owners, who need the education!

Just giving a slap every time it does something that's not to the trainer's liking in the hope that it will guess what it's meant to do? Or is it communicating what's wanted in a language it can understand?

 

[Cowmansam]

When’s the book out

 

[Old Shep]

At 8 weeks old you are bonding. Make being next to you the best place in the universe. Recall then won't be an issue for a while. They don't need to do anything else at that age other than be with you.Then you and pup can explore all new things together and if it's scary you are there to support.