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[happycows]

Is it worth the premium though? By the time they take extra for treatment handling and haulage ect would just feeding a bit more soya be as economic?
Do all the feed companies do this heat treatment or just a few??
I'm guessing it would be used in their Rolls Royce cakes hopefully not made cheap again by using crap.

 

[Baling Hay]

Is it worth the premium though? By the time they take extra for treatment handling and haulage ect would just feeding a bit more soya be as economic?
Do all the feed companies do this heat treatment or just a few??
I'm guessing it would be used in their Rolls Royce cakes hopefully not made cheap again by using crap.

An extra £50 per tonne and by just feeding more soya you would probably have too much protein for the cows at grass.

 

[Hampton]

I notice a lot of crude ash in these bought mixes (6-8%). What is that, and what does it do. Or is it just filler?

 

[Gilchro]

I notice a lot of crude ash in these bought mixes (6-8%). What is that, and what does it do. Or is it just filler?

Ash is not an ingredient. Most energy calculations rely on ignition and the ash is the remains of the ignition.
The idea is that the ash is basically the "non digestible" part. It does contain the minerals so is not entirely undigestible

 

[Hampton]

Ash is not an ingredient. Most energy calculations rely on ignition and the ash is the remains of the ignition.
The idea is that the ash is basically the "non digestible" part. It does contain the minerals so is not entirely undigestible

So it's part of the wheat feed etc. Ie it's not added in separately?

 

[Gilchro]

Yup

 

[Eminus]

@happycows do you only use your blends in the robot or down the passage in winter aswell? we feed a similar blend here in the parlour

 

[happycows]

No stopped throwing food about willy nilly 4 years ago. robot and oopf fed to what i choose for each individual animal. They do have free access to regumaize 44 molasses through a lick feeder in the winter. Just grass or round bale down the feed barrier.

 

[Eminus]

sounds like the set up i want @happycows! how many cows per oopf? you have any pictures of your set up? it sound easily run.

 

[happycows]

@Eminus I'm going to put up some pictues on the all things dairy thread for you in a minute. i'll tag you in it when I'm done

 

[countryman765]

No stopped throwing food about willy nilly 4 years ago. robot and oopf fed to what i choose for each individual animal. They do have free access to regumaize 44 molasses through a lick feeder in the winter. Just grass or round bale down the feed barrier.

How well do lick feeder work when we used to do it the bullys used to get very fat

 

[happycows]

Because it is urea based it is more likely to have the opposite effect of making them milk more and pull condition off and they don't pig out on it at all. On ad lib a 1.25 ton or 1000litres lasts 60 cows about 3-4 weeks. It's also very noticeable that lower yielding cows tend to take more than fresh calvers that would be on more concentrate. They regulate their requirements themselves and it can be seen in milk urea levels.

 

[countryman765]

We feed it through the wagon upto 1.5 kg. Per cow per day

 

[happycows]

It will certaily drive milk. It's like spring grass in a can really. Do you feed it with maize?

 

[countryman765]

No

It will certaily drive milk. It's like spring grass in a can really. Do you feed it with maize?

Grass silage 6 kg brewers grains 1.5 kg of 46%p mollases and 18% hdf conc in parlour. Expect about 15 l from wagon and only have one group of milkers

 

[Beef farmer]

Thinking of making our own blen for the cows, problem...... Will crushed wheat when mixed with other ingredients run out of a collinson feed bin? And will a daltec auger handle it? Don't want to blow some in the bin to find it won't come out.

 

[happycows]

Can I suggest getting a experienced nutritionist in. Too much wheat will be dangerous and careful formulation is required. I don't get any problem with blends flowing as long as your sensible with the molasses. Not had any experience with the Daltec auger but been told this week they don't like fine powdery meal and spiral auger is better??

 

[Beef farmer]

Ah yeah we shalt just mix it willy nilly, just thinking of actually getting the stuff out of the bin. Most a cow would have would be 2.5kg per milking, so not a real overload.

 

[Gilchro]

Ah yeah we shalt just mix it willy nilly, just thinking of actually getting the stuff out of the bin. Most a cow would have would be 2.5kg per milking, so not a real overload.

If that's 5kg a day of wheat alone, that would worry me. If it's blend then not so bad, depending on ingredients

 

[Beef farmer]

No it would be about 3kg of wheat