Concentrate Price Tracker

[Greythundercloudys]

Normally jump to the ewelac rolls once we get nearer lambing. First morning out with the snacker, would have liked to hang off another week but this weather is going to start to take its toll.

Weather up here is shocking, ground is sploonging, iv been feeding mid March ones for a fortnight and start April triplets tomorrow, not many of those, thank god. Ewelac 18, ewes fine, just keeping them at the bit now is the hard bit.

 

[Jimdog1]

I had 6t of mole valleys medium range ewe roll delivered yesterday. £305/t,funny thing is the driver said it comes down from Scotland to glos because they can’t keep up.

Wtf. Mvf mills got major staffing and I.T issues.

 

[J 1177]

Wtf. Mvf mills got major staffing and I.T issues.

Iv heard that mole are struggling to get mineral bucket orders out

 

[Jimdog1]

Iv heard that mole are struggling to get mineral bucket orders out

Mill local to me are short staffed and are having to input data manually for orders/billing/stock data as new I.T system doesn't work. Put it into one mill where it didn't work and then had to put into the others as the current systems licence ended. Hopeless.

 

[J 1177]

Mill local to me are short staffed and are having to input data manually for orders/billing/stock data as new I.T system doesn't work. Put it into one mill where it didn't work and then had to put into the others as the current systems licence ended. Hopeless.

Progress

 

[Mixedupfarmer]

By all means Brewers grains, even at their current price, are the cheapest source of protein out there if you can get them. There are plenty of people doing Ad-lib mash filtered brewers grains to calves top dressed with a couple kilos of barley on similar systems and numbers.
if you cant get those brewers then i would suggest soya, after that i would suggest wheat distillers and make a home mix with minerals to feed with your grass silage. there are people out there that will help you figure it out, you just have to stand your ground sometimes with Dry Feed company's because they will always try to steer you towards a blend, that's what they are paid to do. Margins on straight are marginal, margins on blends are very High.
And if you cant get anyone to help you can always send me a message and i will happily help you.

Feed brewers grains / mash filter grains and maize silage here with a hay or haylage in feed ring, seem to grow well, and simple

 

[aangus]

After scanning, I rang my usual local merchant and ordered 2 pallets of Rumenco Sheep Super Energy which is the amount I would normally get. Went to get them yesterday and discovered that they were High Energy & Protein. She told me that there was something like a 2 month waiting list for SSE which is useless to me. What is going on, has anyone else had problems?

Heard the same a few weeks ago from a mate

 

[livestock 1]

After scanning, I rang my usual local merchant and ordered 2 pallets of Rumenco Sheep Super Energy which is the amount I would normally get. Went to get them yesterday and discovered that they were High Energy & Protein. She told me that there was something like a 2 month waiting list for SSE which is useless to me. What is going on, has anyone else had problems?

Buy some molasses

 

[PTF]

Any thoughts on this? £305/t

 

[SolwayFarmer]

Any thoughts on this? £305/t

Looks alright. Should be decent energy with maize, wheat and soya well up the list. Some decent energy and protein sources too. Ok at £305 in current market

 

[Blindside06]

Thoughts on the attached, £316 a ton for the one with Amino Green and £306 for the one without.

 

[pauld]

Looks a damn sight better than some of the rubbish being posted here

 

[neilo]

Thoughts on the attached, £316 a ton for the one with Amino Green and £306 for the one without.

Did you ask the ME level? I would assume, from the higher oil & lower fibre, that the dearer one is higher?

What’s ‘amino green’?

 

[Blindside06]

ME is 12.5 and 13 respectively. Not sure what amino green is, I shall try and find out.

 

[neilo]

ME is 12.5 and 13 respectively. Not sure what amino green is, I shall try and find out.

Just from that, I’d say the second one is a no-brainer.

 

[Farmerted119]

Just wondered on peoples thoughts for these feeds as starter creep for pedigree lambs. All expensive so just want a gauge to see if they are worth it

 

[neilo]

Just wondered on peoples thoughts for these feeds as starter creep for pedigree lambs. All expensive so just want a gauge to see if they are worth it

If by 'starter feed' you mean a palatable ration to get them nibbling earlier, prior to rearing them on a high concentrate ration, the price is almost irrelevant. They only take relatively small quantities at that age, so a ton goes a long way unless you have a big flock. In that scenario, get a ton of the very best, most palatable, one you can find, preferably with lots of cooked, micronised ingredients.
On that basis, the top one, although lots swear by Galloway & Macleod 'pedigree' rations. When I did my early lambers on creep, I found a ton of 'pedigree ram coarse' from HJ Lea Oakes was just as good at getting them nibbling early on, and £100/t less money than the G&M that everyone raves about.

The last one looks like sh*te though, particularly for little lambs.

 

[Farmerted119]

If by 'starter feed' you mean a palatable ration to get them nibbling earlier, prior to rearing them on a high concentrate ration, the price is almost irrelevant. They only take relatively small quantities at that age, so a ton goes a long way unless you have a big flock. In that scenario, get a ton of the very best, most palatable, one you can find, preferably with lots of cooked, micronised ingredients.
On that basis, the top one, although lots swear by Galloway & Macleod 'pedigree' rations. When I did my early lambers on creep, I found a ton of 'pedigree ram coarse' from HJ Lea Oakes was just as good at getting them nibbling early on, and £100/t less money than the G&M that everyone raves about.

The last one looks like sh*te though, particularly for little lambs.

Thanks for that. Just after something to get them nibbling and then a bit extra when they are out at grass. Everyone seems to have their favourites. A ton would probably last us for 12 weeks. Do you have any preference on ration or pellet?

 

[neilo]

Thanks for that. Just after something to get them nibbling and then a bit extra when they are out at grass. Everyone seems to have their favourites. A ton would probably last us for 12 weeks. Do you have any preference on ration or pellet?

A coarse ration would get them nibbling sooner and achieve higher intakes, if that's what you're looking for. If your feeding ad-lib in a hopper and don't want them to sort it, then a pellet would be better later on. If you are feeding limited quantities in a trough, then it doesn't really matter.

 

[Farmerted119]

A coarse ration would get them nibbling sooner and achieve higher intakes, if that's what you're looking for. If your feeding ad-lib in a hopper and don't want them to sort it, then a pellet would be better later on. If you are feeding limited quantities in a trough, then it doesn't really matter.

Thanks for that. Looks like option A then for most palatable.