Concerned about Red Tractor collapse.

[slackjawedyokel]

Had a gestapo inspection on 3/2/22, which was expected. The inspector just rang up to fix the audit date, no coresspondence arrived from RT informing the date. He spent 30 minutes outside and 2 hours indoors checking records and passing time (and wasting my time) until his next appointment, his timing was perfect. There were no non-conformances until he got ready to leave when he asked to see the H&S policy. He was delighted to find that there wasn't one in place and immediately got his report out to tick box the non-conformance, even though he knew there were no employees here just a one man band! A week later RT informed me that a farm audit was to be carried out in 8 weeks!! Too many jobsworth who can't get things right. Today received a cheeky letter that corrective evidence for the non-conformances was required and to give the matter urgent attention or my membership would be suspended. I've got 28 days I shall comply on the last day!!! What a load of bol...ks and waste of time.

What the heck is a farm audit?

 

[tullah]

What the heck is a farm audit?

Similar to a Vat inspection but in addition want to see the paper trail showing dates you washed your pants etc. They are a bunch of weirdos.

 

[Drillman]

Had a gestapo inspection on 3/2/22, which was expected. The inspector just rang up to fix the audit date, no coresspondence arrived from RT informing the date. He spent 30 minutes outside and 2 hours indoors checking records and passing time (and wasting my time) until his next appointment, his timing was perfect. There were no non-conformances until he got ready to leave when he asked to see the H&S policy. He was delighted to find that there wasn't one in place and immediately got his report out to tick box the non-conformance, even though he knew there were no employees here just a one man band! A week later RT informed me that a farm audit was to be carried out in 8 weeks!! Too many jobsworth who can't get things right. Today received a cheeky letter that corrective evidence for the non-conformances was required and to give the matter urgent attention or my membership would be suspended. I've got 28 days I shall comply on the last day!!! What a load of bol...ks and waste of time.

if your a one man band how did the inspector justify the need for a HSE policy?

 

[DRC]

if your a one man band how did the inspector justify the need for a HSE policy?

They do by saying there are likely to be contractors or delivery drivers visiting the farm.
I was done on the same thing

 

[Drillman]

They do by saying there are likely to be contractors or delivery drivers visiting the farm.
I was done on the same thing

did they ask to see a copy before venturing on the premises?

if not they must be in breach of health and safety

i think I may just write a policy making all buildings out of bounds to visitors on hse grounds.
that will save the gestapo nosying round the chem and grain stores

and if it’s written down it must be right.

i genuinely wonder what they would do in such a situation.

 

[DRC]

did they ask to see a copy before venturing on the premises?

if not they must be in breach of health and safety

They don’t care about Actual health and safety, or they wouldn’t have made me and mrs SF climb onto the fertiliser stack to sheet it ( because she said a member if the public might see it) so a non conformance .

 

[Drillman]

They don’t care about Actual health and safety, or they wouldn’t have made me and mrs SF climb onto the fertiliser stack to sheet it ( because she said a member if the public might see it) so a non conformance .

Ah so your hse policy didn’t allow for the fact that such activities are too dangerous

should have shown them that bit

see what they said

you want me to breach hse policy or leave fert on display?

give em a choice

 

[Grass And Grain]

RT have gold plated their own gold plating.

They said a written H&S policy would be needed for everyone with employees (previously it was just if 5 or more employees).

When the standard came in, it seemed to have changed to everyone needed a H&S policy, and train employees

No wonder we all get sick of RT.

In the chairman's blurb on first page of new combinable crops standards, Guy Smith says H&S policy is a legal requirement, therefore RT are going to inspect it's in place.

Guy is WRONG, it isn't a legal requirement to have a written H&S policy if under 5 employees.

It's a legal requirement for me to MOT the Land Rover, file my VAT returns, hold a gun license if own a 12 bore, insure the tractor, have employers liability insurance, etc.

Are RT going to inspect everything that is required by law, but has nothing to do with food safety?

They've got power crazy, and they need competition.

 

[texelburger]

They've got power crazy, and they need competition.

And the sooner the better. Guy almost seems to take pleasure,it seems,in rubbing us up the wrong way.

 

[Drillman]

And the sooner the better. Guy almost seems to take pleasure,it seems,in rubbing us up the wrong way.

Let them take pleasure while they can.

WE WILL destroy them.

 

[Drillman]

RT have gold plated their own gold plating.

They said a written H&S policy would be needed for everyone with employees (previously it was just if 5 or more employees).

When the standard came in, it seemed to have changed to everyone needed a H&S policy, and train employees

No wonder we all get sick of RT.

In the chairman's blurb on first page of new combinable crops standards, Guy Smith says H&S policy is a legal requirement, therefore RT are going to inspect it's in place.

Guy is WRONG, it isn't a legal requirement to have a written H&S policy if under 5 employees.

It's a legal requirement for me to MOT the Land Rover, file my VAT returns, hold a gun license if own a 12 bore, insure the tractor, have employers liability insurance, etc.

Are RT going to inspect everything that is required by law, but has nothing to do with food safety?

They've got power crazy, and they need competition.

Well I’m knackered then as I don’t have a gun licence so it’s a non conformance for me

 

[Bury the Trash]

Well I’m knackered then as I don’t have a gun licence so it’s a non conformance for me

if youre the keeper of a gun without a licence you should be worried about a lot more than an assurance scheme non conformance , best to get that sorted toot sweet.

 

[Anymulewilldo]

It’s reading things like this thread that make me so glad I don’t need RT too operate!

 

[Bokey]

I love farming and the life around it but I'd pack it all in if I had to be part of rt it can't continue its going to strangle the whole industry in the end

 

[Drillman]

if youre the keeper of a gun without a licence you should be worried about a lot more than an assurance scheme non conformance , best to get that sorted toot sweet.

oh You obviously didn’t get the irony in the Above…..

 

[Grass And Grain]

RT getting some bad publicity about the Panorama Cow programme...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1493550069051580416

 

[Razzmatazz]

if your a one man band how did the inspector justify the need for a HSE policy?

He knew that from the beginning. He was just excited to report a non-conformance even if it didn't apply in this case. He was ready to leave, these ar**h*l*s have targets to meet!! Was glad to see him go!

 

[ajd132]

RT not getting some had publicity about the Panorama Cow programme...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1493550069051580416

Zero credibility

 

[thorpe]

He knew that from the beginning. He was just excited to report a non-conformance even if it didn't apply in this case. He was ready to leave, these ar**h*l*s have targets to meet!! Was glad to see him go!

partnership here 2 of us, no emploies do we need one? did it yesterday as a non copliance.

 

[ploughman1963]

Its almost easier to not show your H&S policy, collect the non-conformance than produce it within 28 days - less hassle on the day, happy inspector, RT admin kept busy - downside is that RT than then claim their existence is justified - "just look at all these non-conformances! We are needed to police these naughty farmers"
What an absolute joke!!