css 2021

[Billboy1]

so far I've steered clear of any of these schemes are they worth going into now or is it best to wait for elms ?

 

[Farma Parma]

you not in any atm then? HLS has on a whole been a good thing for the few pennies lost on some arable ground its cert propped up my much lesser earning PP thats for sure.
Poss considering going into something after my HLS ends later next year tho.... which could be more beneficial than ext current scheme.
looking at all options as atleast it will be fixed for 5years regardless of if n when poxy ELMS kicks in.
Its going to be the death nell on a lot of Tenant Farms i think.

 

[Billboy1]

is it best to get advice on the options I'm in a catchment sensitive area ?

 

[Farma Parma]

is it best to get advice on the options I'm in a catchment sensitive area ?

Hell yeah deffo.

 

[WRXppp]

you not in any atm then? HLS has on a whole been a good thing for the few pennies lost on some arable ground its cert propped up my much lesser earning PP thats for sure.
Poss considering going into something after my HLS ends later next year tho.... which could be more beneficial than ext current scheme.
looking at all options as atleast it will be fixed for 5years regardless of if n when poxy ELMS kicks in.
Its going to be the death nell on a lot of Tenant Farms i think.

Snap, 21 months to go here with an ELS/HLS agreement and would like to tweak as I am fairly well stacked with options and 10 years is a long time too be beholden to what where very good ideas at the time, undersown grass and legume ley is always wet grain, cereal and grass smother out lots of the clover so it wouldn’t feature but then you look at the low input grass option the parkland and paddocks are in and the new one in mid tier bares no resemblance to it. I’m probably in a fortunate position really as I hope we have some idea what ELMS looks like by then, having seen the increase in bird life, barn owls hunting nearly every day and grey partridge, even a corn bunting sighting I think then more wild bird, pollen and nectar and wild flower margins instead of weedy arable margins, also I have a bit of a problem with a damp corner in a field corner with alders establishing which should of been flailed down in September but without ruddy great ruts through it so thinking herbal ley or wild flower meadow.
As when I went into the above scheme you need to fully understand what you can and can’t do and it is all contained within the devilish prescription of each option, you need a damn good notebook/bible of all the dartes that each option needs, anything which can’t be done by a certain date alway inform them before not after said date, all seed labels, with the invoice kept also.

 

[yellow belly]

so far I've steered clear of any of these schemes are they worth going into now or is it best to wait for elms ?

Apply then you have time to consider if accepting when they make the offer

put in options on any land that is low yielding or higher costing
I have fields that now make a contribution to profit that have never produced a a profit in my lifetime the lowest yielding and highest costing fields or part fields
with hindsight should have double the area of nector mix and bird seed and more grass areas for run off
will reapply in 2023 if I can
and watch how elms goes i will be able to leave stewardship mid way if elms proves to be a better system

payment timeing is now much better although not perfect but the rate is not subject to the weather as crop yield are

 

[farmerm]

so far I've steered clear of any of these schemes are they worth going into now or is it best to wait for elms ?

Might as well get in now and get used to it... elms will only be a reworked CSS! If in a priority catchment your catchment sensitive officer will be able to give you some free advice. Remember you can still cancel an application up until you sign late this year. We have been promised when Elms comes live we will be free to drop css and more to ELMs without penalty. It will not make you rich but it can shoehorn a bit more income from less productive areas.