CTS breed code list breed called INRA 95

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Anyone know what the breed code INRA,IN95 and INRA X, IN95X found on the CTS drop down breed code list today stands for?
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If you though Stabiliser was a naff name for a cattle breed INRA 95 doesn't have much of a ring to it!
If someone would care to register a ( low value) calf with this breed code I and the Sheeted Somerset Cattle Society would be very grateful. The system allows me to register a fictitious calf to the point of send but I don't want to risk having a passport and no calf on the premises. We might be able to find out how this code came to be on the list while BCMS are still refusing to give our breed a meaningful breed code.
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topground

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Google is my friend and it would appear that this a 'beef crossing' French breed {whatever that is} marketed by a French company called Evolution International so unlikely to be a low value calf given the back ends on the featured bulls!
Anyone using them?
 

Frank-the-Wool

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All of the INRA prefixes are bred through the French Institute which is I believe heavily government controlled and is involved in breeding and research in all agricultural products.
One of the earliest successes it had was the sheep breed INRA 401 which is a highly prolific ewe and has been around for over 40 years.
 

Whitepeak

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INRA95 is a French terminal composite. There's Blonde, Cullard Charolais, and possibly a bit of Lim in the make up. Developed for producing veal calves off dairy cows I believe. Would be very surprised if there is any in this country though.
 

Agrivator

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Once we leave the EU, we'll be able to have a drastic cull of all these obscure foreign breeds. Why is the breed of the sire so important. The breed of the dam is of far more relevance. And the dam's passport only gives its sire, not it's maternal breeding.
 

Agrivator

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All of the INRA prefixes are bred through the French Institute which is I believe heavily government controlled and is involved in breeding and research in all agricultural products.
One of the earliest successes it had was the sheep breed INRA 401 which is a highly prolific ewe and has been around for over 40 years.

INRA 401 was bred by crossing Romanov (for its prolificacy traits) with Berrichon du Cher (for its carcass meat production qualities). It may be popular among French farmers, particularly if they have been encouraged by the French Institute to adopt it, but if it had any merit, surely it would have crossed the channel by now.

Or is it no better than all the crosses, mongrels and composites produced in the UK over the last 50 years. Whatever happened to the Dam-line, the Hartline, the Improver crosses, the Cambridge, Highlander crosses et al? The only two real steps forward in the last 40 years has been the introduction of Lairg Cheviots into the smaller Cheviot types, and the very rapid adoption of the Cheviot Mule - both down to farmers rather than Geneticists. And neither of them have pink noses.
 

neilo

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INRA 401 was bred by crossing Romanov (for its prolificacy traits) with Berrichon du Cher (for its carcass meat production qualities). It may be popular among French farmers, particularly if they have been encouraged by the French Institute to adopt it, but if it had any merit, surely it would have crossed the channel by now.

Or is it no better than all the crosses, mongrels and composites produced in the UK over the last 50 years. Whatever happened to the Dam-line, the Hartline, the Improver crosses, the Cambridge, Highlander crosses et al? The only two real steps forward in the last 40 years has been the introduction of Lairg Cheviots into the smaller Cheviot types, and the very rapid adoption of the Cheviot Mule - both down to farmers rather than Geneticists. And neither of them have pink noses.

The INRA401 did cross the channel decades ago. I seem to remember they suffered from a functional deficiency in the form of soft, white feet, as is the case for quite a few of the composites bred on bits of paper from the UK too.

You’d like my commercial flock. They are Highlanders, bred up from Hartline crosses off my old Texel ewes, which were bred up from Cambridge crosses. Medium sized, white faced ewes that thrive on low inputs.
I cross those with some of those nasty French Charollais as a terminal (or Beltex on the hoggs). My last trailer load of lambs came back as 50% E grades, all from an outdoor lambing system where I hope not to lamb more than a handful.?

Pesky mongrels!
 

Agrivator

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The INRA401 did cross the channel decades ago. I seem to remember they suffered from a functional deficiency in the form of soft, white feet, as is the case for quite a few of the composites bred on bits of paper from the UK too.

You’d like my commercial flock. They are Highlanders, bred up from Hartline crosses off my old Texel ewes, which were bred up from Cambridge crosses. Medium sized, white faced ewes that thrive on low inputs.
I cross those with some of those nasty French Charollais as a terminal (or Beltex on the hoggs). My last trailer load of lambs came back as 50% E grades, all from an outdoor lambing system where I hope not to lamb more than a handful.?

Pesky mongrels!

Just imagine what you could achieve with some proper sheep.
 
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