Culls to be allowed to continue.

Dry Rot

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Sense will ultimately prevail. It's the waiting that's killing us.

Surely, it makes sense to allow culling under licence same as much of Europe. If a licence is unreasonably withheld and damage results, the government should pay. Licences issued to suitably qualified gun owners, no need for 'specialists' costing millions.
 

JockCroft

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Someone read up on the pressures TB put on the NHS in it formative years. AND PANNICKED.
It is unfortunately increasing in humans at the moment so maybe/hopefully see sense in acting now.

Anyway how or who caused the public to think that Badgers are cuddly and must be protected. Same goes for fox lynx and wolf.
 

BAF

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The daft thing is badger baiting was illegal way before they protected them in the 90's. The police were just too scared as per usual to try and take on the gangs of rough barstewards that engaged in the likes of badger baiting and dog fighting. It was easier all round just to protect them without losing face when in reality the hunt/keepers/shooters kept a pretty good level on them following the decision to stop gassing them in the 70s. That protection and the development of maize growing in this country really caused a massive spike in badger numbers. No one wants them extinct. What I do think though is that the population is so large that it needs controlling. You should know that they're there but you shouldn't see them about and if you do the population has gotten too big again. Stick them on the general license with a 6 month season and be done with it! Alternatively keep paying me as a licensed contractor to keep shooting and trapping them I don't mind!
 

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
Someone read up on the pressures TB put on the NHS in it formative years. AND PANNICKED.
It is unfortunately increasing in humans at the moment so maybe/hopefully see sense in acting now.

Anyway how or who caused the public to think that Badgers are cuddly and must be protected. Same goes for fox lynx and wolf.
Disney, Beatrix Potter, Kenneth Grahame (Wind in the Willows), Richard Adams (Watership Down) and the Elephant in the room, compassionate conservation.

 
Beatrix Potter gets a bad press for portraying cuddly animals. She loathed both foxes and badger- as a respected breeder of prize winning Herdwick sheep she was probably well aware of their predatory habits. They only appear in her books as nasty villains. Read the tale of the Fierce Bad Rabbit in which the bully gets shot and his tail and whiskers blown off and you'll see that she was certainly not a "compassionate conservationist."
 

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
Beatrix Potter gets a bad press for portraying cuddly animals. She loathed both foxes and badger- as a respected breeder of prize winning Herdwick sheep she was probably well aware of their predatory habits. They only appear in her books as nasty villains. Read the tale of the Fierce Bad Rabbit in which the bully gets shot and his tail and whiskers blown off and you'll see that she was certainly not a "compassionate conservationist."
I didn't say she was a compassionate conservationist, however, her genre is all part of anthropomorphism which I believe has helped alter societies attitude to animals. Even portraying foxes as villians is in itself anthropomorphising them. Badgers or foxes are not nasty villains, rather they are just following their nature.
 
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Hill Ground

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The tale of Mr tod gave me nightmares when it was read to me as a bedtime story!!!
Beatrix Potter gets a bad press for portraying cuddly animals. She loathed both foxes and badger- as a respected breeder of prize winning Herdwick sheep she was probably well aware of their predatory habits. They only appear in her books as nasty villains. Read the tale of the Fierce Bad Rabbit in which the bully gets shot and his tail and whiskers blown off and you'll see that she was certainly not a "compassionate conservationist."
 

Levelsman

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Livestock Farmer
Someone read up on the pressures TB put on the NHS in it formative years. AND PANNICKED.
It is unfortunately increasing in humans at the moment so maybe/hopefully see sense in acting now.

Anyway how or who caused the public to think that Badgers are cuddly and must be protected. Same goes for fox lynx and wolf.

Don't think the increase in humans is badger related!
I think a cull of those responsible is highly unlikely! 🤫🤐
 

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