DD swedes & Fodder crops

[Derrick Hughes]

First job would be to put Redstart into a quite open sward of WesterWolds . in a bout 2 or 3 weeks time i think.

I tried it last year ,grass swamped it

 

[Bury the Trash]

It would be sprayed .

 

[Derrick Hughes]

It would be sprayed .

OK sorry , good then

 

[Bury the Trash]

Trouble is i normally have a cunning plan but this time i actually don't , not a complete one anyway

 

[Kevtherev]

Trouble is i normally have a cunning plan but this time i actually don't , not a complete one anyway

Got a spring tine? Or disc Harrow?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Trouble is i normally have a cunning plan but this time i actually don't , not a complete one anyway

If it's as you say you could scratch that with a tine Harrow and get a seedbed

 

[Bury the Trash]

Got a spring tine? Or disc Harrow?

no discs these days, got an 8ft twose vibratiller .

ph's took over from them but going in direct is hard on them .
anything other than a proper drill i might as well plough and broadcast seed with fert like i normally do .
i should leave the headlands and an acre or 2 ,let it grow long and fence it in with the redstart.

 

[Devon James]

Cant help with a Duncan but this method works well. This is into ropey old grass.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Looking good James ,
trouble might be with 5 acre fields your large outfit would be turning most of the time !

 

[goodevans]

How soon after pasture is rounduped do people drill,field has been mown and allowed to just green up,first time attempt so don't want any mistakes,it will be drilled with turnip/rape mix with a Weaving GD

 

[Kevtherev]

How soon after pasture is rounduped do people drill,field has been mown and allowed to just green up,first time attempt so don't want any mistakes,it will be drilled with turnip/rape mix with a Weaving GD

I normally like to leave it a week to 10 days to die off thoroughly

 

[Bury the Trash]

I always reckon it Needs a reasonable few days undisturbed ,to work through the plants system, (translocation) down into the roots to kill the target plant completely.
No idea how the timing should be with Direct drilling though.

Iirc the last time i saw James was when i pulled his Massey (and him ) out of a ditch when he got to close with the trimmer, . Was a few yrs ago now mind.

 

[neilo]

When drilling summer forage crops do you all put slug pellets on as routine or do you have little bother with slugs.

I DD’ed into sprayed off grass last week and applied 2kg/ac of pellets on Friday. When I checked again on Sunday, they’d all gone, so clearly LOTS of slugs about. Another 2kg applied yesterday, and some of those have already gone too.

My agronomist wasn’t surprised. He said that, on most of the wheat crops he’s walking currently, he’s seeing 3 slugs on each ear.

Mild winters have led to more surviving.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

How soon after pasture is rounduped do people drill,field has been mown and allowed to just green up,first time attempt so don't want any mistakes,it will be drilled with turnip/rape mix with a Weaving GD

You can spray after seeding if you want , miss the rain you be kicking yourself

 

[NFI]

Needless to say I am a brassica novice.
This was pp sprayed off and dd with a Horsch drill with Clampsaver 2 a month ago. 4 acres. Not sure what’s gone wrong. Has had lime but no fert (luckily). It did come up in the gateway and then disappeared as you go into the field. A friend says it possibly went in too deep. For plan B I’ve got some redstart but reluctant to use the same drill.
Thoughts please.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Needless to say I am a brassica novice.
This was pp sprayed off and dd with a Horsch drill with Clampsaver 2 a month ago. 4 acres. Not sure what’s gone wrong. Has had lime but no fert (luckily). It did come up in the gateway and then disappeared as you go into the field. A friend says it possibly went in too deep. For plan B I’ve got some redstart but reluctant to use the same drill.
Thoughts please.

whats clamp saver 2 @NFI ?

 

[NFI]

whats clamp saver 2 @NFI ?

Field options: Forage rape. Ryegrass. Berseem clover.
I put in another 4 acres which has struggled a bit but at least it's coming. Unlike this.
Both plots were 20 year old pastures.

 

[hally]

Needless to say I am a brassica novice.
This was pp sprayed off and dd with a Horsch drill with Clampsaver 2 a month ago. 4 acres. Not sure what’s gone wrong. Has had lime but no fert (luckily). It did come up in the gateway and then disappeared as you go into the field. A friend says it possibly went in too deep. For plan B I’ve got some redstart but reluctant to use the same drill.
Thoughts please.

Doesn’t look too deep drilled to me could be flea beetle or slugs, a lot about this year.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Needless to say I am a brassica novice.
This was pp sprayed off and dd with a Horsch drill with Clampsaver 2 a month ago. 4 acres. Not sure what’s gone wrong. Has had lime but no fert (luckily). It did come up in the gateway and then disappeared as you go into the field. A friend says it possibly went in too deep. For plan B I’ve got some redstart but reluctant to use the same drill.
Thoughts please.

what has the weather been like dry or wet or bit of both?

if it was dry > drying it could be poor seed / seedling to soil contact if its been moisty / wet could be slugs,
plus if its cloddy sort of soil condition it could be slugs

or if the weathers been perfect it could be rabbits .....or slugs or both or all of the above

 

[NFI]

To be fair we have had good growing weather although it was dry when it was drilled. I didn't roll it because I didn't think that it would make a difference being quite hard. Soil isn't clay type. If you look close you can see some of the rape has been eaten down. It just surprised me that the whole field has been affected. Reading @nielo's post has got me thinking that there could be something lurking.