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czechmate

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Mixed Farmer
This old thing causes me some headache’s.
It can’t be the way it is used can it?😬

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As I have said many times I like cruising up and down a field doing not a lot but pushing buttons or operating spools with one finger. If it makes my working day easier, I'm all for it. No more hesitant gear changing, jerking around, no more roaring the engine to get along at high forward speeds. No more trying to steer accurately for hours on end. It's marvellous.
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
As I have said many times I like cruising up and down a field doing not a lot but pushing buttons or operating spools with one finger. If it makes my working day easier, I'm all for it. No more hesitant gear changing, jerking around, no more roaring the engine to get along at high forward speeds. No more trying to steer accurately for hours on end. It's marvellous.

i agrée on one hand, as the driver, but - as the entrepreneur it’s a feckin ball ache when a perfectly operational machine won’t work because of an electronic piece … and it’s the week end… and there’s rain coming
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
As I have said many times I like cruising up and down a field doing not a lot but pushing buttons or operating spools with one finger. If it makes my working day easier, I'm all for it. No more hesitant gear changing, jerking around, no more roaring the engine to get along at high forward speeds. No more trying to steer accurately for hours on end. It's marvellous.
The trouble is though, that there is a danger that when it stops working, some haven’t got the skill to use it manually.
I know of at least 2 occasions when that has happened and the job didn’t get finished because the sat-nav signal dropped out and the young driver didn’t know how to take over. Or vermin had fooked the wiring so that it started working intermittently.

It is nice to have stuff that makes life easier. But we need the skill to know how to operate it, when the tech lets us down.

My CX Combine has what looks like a iPad mini as the dashboard called Inteliview 3. One day, the screen went blank and although everything mechanical still worked, I had no idea what the engine temp, fuel level, oil pressure, speeds, how full the grain tank was, losses, crop settings were, etc.
So I daren’t use it until it was fixed.
It cost over £2.5k and a days work lost to put it right with the new Inteliview 3 and to reprogram it to the combine.

Meanwhile, the next door neighbour’s 20 year old TF just kept going……..!
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
The trouble is though, that there is a danger that when it stops working, some haven’t got the skill to use it manually.
I know of at least 2 occasions when that has happened and the job didn’t get finished because the sat-nav signal dropped out and the young driver didn’t know how to take over. Or vermin had fooked the wiring so that it started working intermittently.

It is nice to have stuff that makes life easier. But we need the skill to know how to operate it, when the tech lets us down.

My CX Combine has what looks like a iPad mini as the dashboard called Inteliview 3. One day, the screen went blank and although everything mechanical still worked, I had no idea what the engine temp, fuel level, oil pressure, speeds, how full the grain tank was, losses, crop settings were, etc.
So I daren’t use it until it was fixed.
It cost over £2.5k and a days work lost to put it right with the new Inteliview 3 and to reprogram it to the combine.

Meanwhile, the next door neighbour’s 20 year old TF just kept going……..!

i have had to abandon wrapping bales and bedding cattle just for control boxes. Why do these basic machines need control boxes!?!?.
Purely by coincidence, I used to have an identical krone baler to my next door neighbour - we were always exchanging boxes to get jobs finished. He was gutted when I exchanged mine
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
And when I reversed it up the ramps the bloke said “You look like you’ve done that before.” And I said “Yes, but it always makes me nervous.” I didn’t tell him why. I didn’t tell him about Ken, the kindly lad who worked for my grandfather driving my grandfathers low loader moving bulldozers etc. Ken wore a cowboy hat with the brim pinned up at both sides. I was a little kid and he would lift you up to see what was going on. He was alright. Anyway Ken left my grandfathers employment and moved on to work for a construction firm moving plant. And one day a bulldozer was being driving up the ramps and a track lost grip as can happen and the bulldozer spun round and fell off the ramps crushing Ken to death under it and he’d a wife and two year old kid. And even 50 years later I always think about Ken when I’m loading stuff.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Why does that upset me 50 years later? I was 5 when I last saw Ken and only seven when I heard he’d been killed. I think it’s because he was so young. Old folk dying is expected. Dunno. Funny how things affect you. Not sure if my parents were even aware I’d taken in the bad news at the time.. But I picked it all up. Ken had been killed when a bulldozer fell off his low loader at the docks. I can even remember his surname but I won’t repeat it here. RIP Ken old lad.
 
It's a huge factor and genuinely one of the reasons I left the UK.
The grey days just messed me up.

Having said that it's 21 degrees C and sunny as I type this but there's that much shite happened (and continuing) in the last 12 months, the sun isn't helping much.
Just how much of the shite we are dealing with over the last 12 months was a result of that mad bitch that was on the 9th floor?
 

Wolds Beef

Member
Had a shock yesterday!, talking to the young lass up the lane here. She told me a lad who was chairman of Louth YFC had been found earlier in the day hung from a tree. I did not know him, but I am told very active, very likeable, has literally last week been taking a tractor around various schools around Louth talking about farming. I rang our County NFU chair, who knew within minutes of it happening, they have no idea why at this stage.
WB
 

Wood field

Member
Livestock Farmer
Had a shock yesterday!, talking to the young lass up the lane here. She told me a lad who was chairman of Louth YFC had been found earlier in the day hung from a tree. I did not know him, but I am told very active, very likeable, has literally last week been taking a tractor around various schools around Louth talking about farming. I rang our County NFU chair, who knew within minutes of it happening, they have no idea why at this stage.
WB
That’s awful, no one knows the troubles folk are going through
 
Had a shock yesterday!, talking to the young lass up the lane here. She told me a lad who was chairman of Louth YFC had been found earlier in the day hung from a tree. I did not know him, but I am told very active, very likeable, has literally last week been taking a tractor around various schools around Louth talking about farming. I rang our County NFU chair, who knew within minutes of it happening, they have no idea why at this stage.
WB

A few years ago I was in conversation with someone and we counted 3 people who had gone by the way of suicide within what I would consider a relatively small geographical area. It hit me hard because one of them was a stitch younger than me. A terrible terrible thing. I keep telling myself that one day as a rural GP I'd like to think people could come to me and I'd be able to circumvent this kind of thing. I have the insight into the industry and I see how isolating it can be for people and what can go wrong for folk.
 

Wolds Beef

Member
LRSN, Lincolnshire Rural Support Network, I think is a marvelous charity, The lead Rural Chaplain heads it up. Canon Rev Alan Robson can walk in where others can not and he is a fabulous chap.
The local fatstock dinner (the show does not happen anymore) is presenting a cheque in the near future to Alan for this charity. He also took the funerals of both my late brother and my late father in the last couple of years. That is the reason for the cheque as my brother was chair of the Fatstock committee and Father was a long time President of the committee. He is of the Methodist persuasion but the C of E is in such a mess in Lincolnshire that he is called on a lot to take agricultural funerals.
WB
 

workin f nowt

Member
Mixed Farmer
Unfortunately nobody knows what is going on in anybody else's head other than that person. Now I know I'm not the most eloquent at putting things across so please don't shoot me down. I'm maybe fortunate as as far as I'm concerned I'm not a sufferer in parts I don't belive in clinical depression. People ask me do you not get depression and all I can answer is I don't know. Yes I have sh!t days but hopefully tomorrow will be a better one. The few people that I know of that have taken their own ending aren't the quiet subdued ones but seem to be those that appear to have a bold outgoing persona and at what appears alot to be grateful for. I do know some folk that also appear a bit unstable and always listen if and that is the problem if they want to talk. As I say hope this offends nobody and my heart felt condolences go out to this lads family and anyone of you that had to endure the same. I am always hear for anyone if the need arise as I think a complete stranger can be easier to communicate with. Take care one and all
 

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