Dealing with fly tippers

[YorkshireAndrew]

We’ve had a couple of bad tipping incidents recently .

The perpetrators of this was identified but not enough proof they did it . The next one is with enforcement at the council but I’m not holding my breath for a successful prosecution . Absolutely fed up with it .

I’d be tempted to react strongly if I caught someone in the act of fly tipping now .

 

[Still Farming]

Most probably you get charged more than they possibly could be or get away altogether???

 

[DRC]

We’ve had a couple of bad tipping incidents recently . View attachment 793844 The perpetrators of this was identified but not enough proof they did it . The next one is with enforcement at the council but I’m not holding my breath for a successful prosecution . Absolutely fed up with it . View attachment 793846 I’d be tempted to react strongly if I caught someone in the act of fly tipping now .

That’s disgusting. Although are you sure @Kevtherev hasnt come camping for the weekend

 

[Northeastfarmer]

It’s ‘interesting’ to see you care so passionately about the welfare of people who clearly only care about themselves.
I’d bet a penny to a pound, that if someone with the morals of a fly tipper or a hare coarser stumbled upon you ‘in dire straights’ that your welfare or family wouldn’t cross their mind. Hows that for perspective?

They are scum...they want their legs breaking

 

[JMTHORNLEY]

That’s disgusting. Although are you sure @Kevtherev hasnt come camping for the weekend

Be fair to Kev, if he had he'd of sorted that standing water I see in front of the pile

 

[Still Farming]

We’ve had a couple of bad tipping incidents recently . View attachment 793844 The perpetrators of this was identified but not enough proof they did it . The next one is with enforcement at the council but I’m not holding my breath for a successful prosecution . Absolutely fed up with it . View attachment 793846 I’d be tempted to react strongly if I caught someone in the act of fly tipping now .

Funny they did'nt get stuck if wet?
Throwing old silage bales out too did they???

 

[AGN76]

Funny they did'nt get stuck if wet?
Throwing old silage bales out too did they???

Can see why they dumped the freelander though!

 

[Wastexprt]

We’ve had a couple of bad tipping incidents recently . View attachment 793844 The perpetrators of this was identified but not enough proof they did it . The next one is with enforcement at the council but I’m not holding my breath for a successful prosecution . Absolutely fed up with it . View attachment 793846 I’d be tempted to react strongly if I caught someone in the act of fly tipping now .

Where there's evidence the onus is now on the waste producer to demonstrate that they could prove who took/were given the waste. If they can't they get prosecuted.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...hold-waste-duty-of-care-fixed-penalty-notices

 

[ThatsSomeSheep]

Bit stoopid imho.

Now there is a wrecked van and a pile of crap to be dealt with / removed.

Tippers are much better to be dealt with @jhorr30 style.

TSS

 

[7610 super q]

Unavailable now says.

It's now showing in another thread in the crime section.

 

[New Puritan]

It's made it onto YouTube for those not on Facebook:

Looks a bit fake to me - why didn't the other guy help his mate when he was getting pushed around? That's not how it works. The body language looks all wrong too.

 

[Landy Nick]

I saw this earlier and instantly thought the video has been made up.
If they were fly tipping. You expect the heap to be behind van doors. Not all around van and in front too.

 

[7610 super q]

Well fake or not, if it does the rounds on Facebook, maybe folks will think twice about dumping sh!te. A job well done.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Bit stoopid imho.

Now there is a wrecked van and a pile of crap to be dealt with / removed.

Tippers are much better to be dealt with @jhorr30 style.

TSS

The van can go to the scrap yard in a little cube...job done

 

[ollie989898]

Root cause of fly tipping is either the cost and problems involved with taking stuff to the dump, or people can't be assed.

When we were redecorating I ended up with a few bags of plasterboard to get rid of, literally a 1 square yard piece of plasterboard broken up and in two bags.

Trying to legally dispose of it was a serious rigamarole. No wonder people just dump stuff.

 

[Highland Mule]

Root cause of fly tipping is either the cost and problems involved with taking stuff to the dump, or people can't be assed.

When we were redecorating I ended up with a few bags of plasterboard to get rid of, literally a 1 square yard piece of plasterboard broken up and in two bags.

Trying to legally dispose of it was a serious rigamarole. No wonder people just dump stuff.

What’s wrong with your wheeliebin?

 

[M-J-G]

Bit stoopid imho.

Now there is a wrecked van and a pile of crap to be dealt with / removed.

Tippers are much better to be dealt with @jhorr30 style.

TSS

Owwww yeaaah

 

[Goweresque]

Root cause of fly tipping is either the cost and problems involved with taking stuff to the dump, or people can't be assed.

When we were redecorating I ended up with a few bags of plasterboard to get rid of, literally a 1 square yard piece of plasterboard broken up and in two bags.

Trying to legally dispose of it was a serious rigamarole. No wonder people just dump stuff.

This is the problem - politicians (and civil servants) imagine that all they have to do is pass a law saying X, Y and Z must happen, and you can't do A, B and C any more, and everyone will just abide by it. Whereas is the real world people ignore the law and do their best to get round it, especially when its laws that are more unenforceable than enforceable, and they have a vested interest in not paying new taxes and charges to comply.

The waste management system should take into account human nature and work with it, not against it. I've said for ages that domestic and small business waste should be free to dispose of, just turn up at the tip and chuck it out. The extra money it might cost in disposals would be far outweighed by a) reduced costs of policing the system, and cleaning up after fly tippers, and b) the value to all of society in not having sh*t tipped everywhere. It would be self policing - if you can get it in the back of a transit then you could tip it free, anything bigger would have to pay landfill as now.

 

[AGN76]

As above. Our microwave died so I chucked it in the work van and took it to the tip. "You can't bring that here in a van!"
I took it away, and threw it in the next available layby. (I didn't, but many would!)

 

[Dry Rot]

This is the problem - politicians (and civil servants) imagine that all they have to do is pass a law saying X, Y and Z must happen, and you can't do A, B and C any more, and everyone will just abide by it. Whereas is the real world people ignore the law and do their best to get round it, especially when its laws that are more unenforceable than enforceable, and they have a vested interest in not paying new taxes and charges to comply.

The waste management system should take into account human nature and work with it, not against it. I've said for ages that domestic and small business waste should be free to dispose of, just turn up at the tip and chuck it out. The extra money it might cost in disposals would be far outweighed by a) reduced costs of policing the system, and cleaning up after fly tippers, and b) the value to all of society in not having sh*t tipped everywhere. It would be self policing - if you can get it in the back of a transit then you could tip it free, anything bigger would have to pay landfill as now.

I'm informed our nearest landfill is 150 miles away. I don't know if that is true, but I think it is.