Brilliant!Then everyone will stop going into towns,and farms can turn into retail outlets, and crops/cattle etc can be grown/ reared on the multitude of window boxes available in the nice clean towns!
Death of Diesel Cars
- Thread starter cosmiccrofter
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Tesla Model 3? Family electric car. 400,000 pre-orders and nobody has even seen it yet. Tesla's strategy was clear. The roadster funded the Model S which funded the Model X which will fund the Model 3. The boss has a habit of making things work.
There is no doubt that if Merc, BMW, Audi, Nissan, Honda and so on get on with EV, they will be up there but most are not. Many are pissing around with hydrogen when it's a dead end. If they don't get a move on they could allow Tesla to become an automotive giant.
Yosemite Sam
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- Wiltshire
They better build some more power stations quick then. In a few years we won't have enough electric to turn the lights and such on, let alone charge up thousands of cars
They are easily available now! They are called trains!
Yes we will. Electricity is easy to generate.
As someone who does around 7000 miles a year I'm really not that bothered about mpg or pollution in cars that I own.
However I can't wait for the day when electric tractors become commercially available. Just look at the possibilities. They will be a million times better than the overpriced, over complicated things we have now.
However I can't wait for the day when electric tractors become commercially available. Just look at the possibilities. They will be a million times better than the overpriced, over complicated things we have now.
SilliamWhale
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Pre orders hmmm part of the marketing strategy i think.
Again old hat, were used in Russia years ago.They seemed to just chuck a bit of wire over the nearest pylon and go to work!
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- Lincolnshire.
Oh you would prefer higher fuel duty? City air will be cleaned up one way or another! The proceeds of either tax could be used for public transport improvements. Bizarrely Londoners are going to benefit from £770m spent on improvements for cycling, strange world!
JohnGalway
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- Connemara, Ireland
Watched a video this morning of the aforementioned Mr Musk talking about his solar roof tiles. According to him, cheaper than a conventional roof once you factored in the projected electricity savings as well. The connectivity between roof tiles, in house battery, and the charge point for the electric cars was interesting.
I think that hydrogen fuel is likely to be the final answer. Whichever way its done, electricity just moves the pollution around, be it soot or radio active waste. Fuel duty will go up whatever happens, need to make room and pay for, all those cycle lanes. Public transport is not the answer, it always picks you up from near where you are , at a time which is chosen by its self, and drops you off in the vicinity of your destination.
my family car does 20k miles a year - I worked out the difference between a diesel range rover sport and a hybrid would be £4000 a year in fuel cost. there are also some tax advantages to the hybrid
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- Lincolnshire
I have funds that could buy several, but i wont, it gives the wrong impression, but your example to the single Mum doing the school isn't really an option to her despite being a "No Brainer"
John 1594
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- Cambridgeshire
[QUOTE="Clive, post: 3214656, member: 6"]im only in a position to afford such nice things because I don't spend all my money on diesel and plough metal ................. but there are still plenty that think i'm barking up the wrong tree.
I'm incredibly fortunate and realise that but its not just luck and was not easy or without risk and still isnt today, I personally never begrudge anyone a bit of success[/QUOTE]
And yet again the un-needed smugness shines through as bright as ever, when you resort to trying to justify your argument by turning the thread into another "ooo look at me and my holier than thou direct drill approach to life"
Its getting a bit boring now, no, actually its getting f**king boring
I'm incredibly fortunate and realise that but its not just luck and was not easy or without risk and still isnt today, I personally never begrudge anyone a bit of success[/QUOTE]
And yet again the un-needed smugness shines through as bright as ever, when you resort to trying to justify your argument by turning the thread into another "ooo look at me and my holier than thou direct drill approach to life"
Its getting a bit boring now, no, actually its getting f**king boring
It's important to understand that he is talking about new roofs, not replacing good roofs. So in other words, if you are going to replace your roof, do a solar one. He makes the point that you shouldn't rush out and rip off a perfectly decent tile roof just to get solar and I think that shows some common sense.
In terms of new build houses, shouldn't they all have solar roofs and battery storage? It must be a no brainer. Most houses have enough roof to supply say 80% of their need so that would take a massive amount of pressure off the grid. Certainly if we ever get planning to convert our big barn, I'll be looking for the best solar roof I can find. Stupid not to.
And yet again the un-needed smugness shines through as bright as ever, when you resort to trying to justify your argument by turning the thread into another "ooo look at me and my holier than thou direct drill approach to life"
Its getting a bit boring now, no, actually its getting f**king boring
[/QUOTE]Stuck in a rut? That sounds pretty angry.
John 1594
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- Cambridgeshire
Stuck in a rut? That sounds pretty angry.[/QUOTE]And yet again the un-needed smugness shines through as bright as ever, when you resort to trying to justify your argument by turning the thread into another "ooo look at me and my holier than thou direct drill approach to life"
Its getting a bit boring now, no, actually its getting f**king boring
No, just saying what a lot of other people are probably thinking. Il tolerate most things in life, but someone who brags about money, they deserve nothing in my eyes.
I still fail to see how you can draw a comparison between the average motorist and thier diesel car, and some "progressive" farmer who keeps trying to force his own idealist mantra onto everyone else by shouting it as loud as he can at every opportunity
Roger Perry
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Just an observation......
England was always a strange place where money is concerned, while I agree it's bad form to talk about having it, it seems ok to talk about the lack of it.........even a strange pride in talking about poverty when most on here do not know poverty.
On the other side, a lot of people with no real money go to great lengths to somehow prove that they are wealthy.
Is this the class system at work or something else..?
Thoughts...
England was always a strange place where money is concerned, while I agree it's bad form to talk about having it, it seems ok to talk about the lack of it.........even a strange pride in talking about poverty when most on here do not know poverty.
On the other side, a lot of people with no real money go to great lengths to somehow prove that they are wealthy.
Is this the class system at work or something else..?
Thoughts...
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
A good question.
I agree that folks that are successful here get viewed cynically and in the US ostensibly they are celebrated.
You have a lower safety net than we do
We also have a few lefties who define child poverty / poverty as (I think) households with 60% of average earnings. Many wartime families had real poverty stories and lives not theoretical comparators.
We are two Nations divided by a common language
John 1594
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- Cambridgeshire
Otherwise known as "hyacinth bucket" syndrome......its a constant game of one-upmanship on your surrounding folk, be they friends, or foes....
example....having a fendt in the yard what its even yours and still belongs to the finance company is better than saying you own a zetor outright. Even though the zetor owner probably paid cash and could buy another one just the same tommorrow, because he can actually afford it
snobbery in its most basic form