Do we miss bravo and opus?

[Goodolddays]

Guess
The companies fon't ban they just mount no defense of generics as no money to be made.
Quite frankly if you want to accept the endocrine disrupter nonsense then you could ban every chem we use by finding similar pretend risks.

! I think your coming from a position of no knowledge. ED nonsense!!! Every chemical that fails the end points for ED is being banned, and not just in agchem.

 

[Flatlander]

Are these fungicides banned in EU, Canada and countries who we import wheat from?

No. Both still available in Canada. Epoxy is relatively newly released. Some still see tilt as cutting edge technology as regards fungicides. Different climate here fir the most part

 

[Iben]

Ha. Tilt and tilt turbo!

The nostalgia keeps coming.

 

[essex man]

! I think your coming from a position of no knowledge. ED nonsense!!! Every chemical that fails the end points for ED is being banned, and not just in agchem.

So what?

 

[richard hammond]

Because they were out of patent.

No they became to cheap and over used because they were cheap!! blame the bloody agronomists!

 

[richard hammond]

No. Both still available in Canada. Epoxy is relatively newly released. Some still see tilt as cutting edge technology as regards fungicides. Different climate here fir the most part

No. Both still available in Canada. Epoxy is relatively newly released. Some still see tilt as cutting edge technology as regards fungicides. Different climate here fir the most part

Am I right in thiking you can still use Gramoxone(paraquat) and it can be delivered in an IBC!!

 

[ollie989898]

Am I right in thiking you can still use Gramoxone(paraquat) and it can be delivered in an IBC!!

Wouldn't be surprised. They have access to some chemicals the UK has never heard of. Same in some parts of Europe, where they certainly had access to some maize and beet herbicides that I'd never seen or heard of in the UK- bigger marketplace means more companies will pay the money to get their products registered and keep them registered for longer.

I don't think for one second CTL's commercial position had much bearing on CRD's position on it. Loads of older chemistry was lost because no one would spend the money to get the work done and get them re-registered.

 

[richard hammond]

Wouldn't be surprised. They have access to some chemicals the UK has never heard of. Same in some parts of Europe, where they certainly had access to some maize and beet herbicides that I'd never seen or heard of in the UK- bigger marketplace means more companies will pay the money to get their products registered and keep them registered for longer.

I don't think for one second CTL's commercial position had much bearing on CRD's position on it. Loads of older chemistry was lost because no one would spend the money to get the work done and get them re-registered.

being cynical was it because new chemistry had better commercial margins,

 

[Flatlander]

Am I right in thiking you can still use Gramoxone(paraquat) and it can be delivered in an IBC!!

Not totally sure but I think you can. Little use fir it here with roundup being a cheap alternative. generic RU at 7$ a litre for 540 gram and a sure kill on everything takes some beating.
some new chemistry here that I believe you will be getting soon. Mirivas ??
I think few chemicals get banned here because cropping practices vary so much between farms that overuse doesn’t seem to be an issue. It will come with herbicides first and be driven by resistance weeds.

 

[robbie]

Am I right in thiking you can still use Gramoxone(paraquat) and it can be delivered in an IBC!!

I think I'm right in saying the UK is still one of the biggest manufacturers of paraquat

 

[Flatlander]

being cynical was it because new chemistry had better commercial margins,

It is in Canada. Better chance of a good margin on newer chemistry than on 2o year old generic products a quarter the price.
local chemical distributer won’t stock generic as it’s not covered it something goes wrong.

 

[ollie989898]

being cynical was it because new chemistry had better commercial margins,

But re-registering this stuff costs them money. And if they aren't selling that much of the stuff as a company, why would they bother?

 

[teslacoils]

Of all of them, I think teb will be a huge loss.

 

[essex man]

Of all of them, I think teb will be a huge loss.

Is teb def going?

 

[essex man]

Biocides GB Expiry date postponements: February 2024 - Biocides - HSE

A decision has been taken to postpone the active substance expiry dates for all biocidal active substance and product type combinations which expire between 1 January 2024 and 31 December 2026, until 31 January 2027

www.hse.gov.uk

 

[Iben]

Once an active has become generic. Who pays for the re registration?

 

[ollie989898]

Once an active has become generic. Who pays for the re registration?

Whoever wants to market it.

 

[Iben]

Whoever wants to market it.

So, if multiple companies want to market it. They each have to put it through the same registration process, providing the same data?

 

[richard hammond]

But re-registering this stuff costs them money. And if they aren't selling that much of the stuff as a company, why would they bother?

I under stand that but has it been designed to cost a fortune so people dont bother ! who decides what the re reg figures should be and should they be so high if the product is still safe and working.(and I mean really safe )

 

[ajd132]

Levy funds on keeping ctl and epoxi would have added monumentally more value to the industry than all the other stuff they do