Dreaming about lathes / mills

[Phil P]

i can't understand a word of what you've written...

Have you any idea how much practice it takes to type with an accent

 

[tomlad]

Prob red mist wen i wrote
Bought v bottom holder ,ebay £50,50 delivered.
Recieved mt 2 holder i dont think thats much use so i asked on here.
Comunicated seller , they agree its wrong item so send back as i can't have the correct one ???
I post back, they receive but don't refund, many msg no reply, many days , my arse twitching. Click options thru ebay this morning to refund/ return . Prob 2 minutes £50 .50 refunded
Not got the £4 return postage and i don't think i will . Not my fault she sent wrong item . Rant over possibly. A seller to avoid, she has some engineering stuff listed im updating u lads.

Quite possibly a nonsense post on my part as it dont matter now but an update .

 

[tinman]

i have an eBay concierge that takes care of any problems i may encounter (apparently im special, altho id buy 2-300 items per yr through them with 100% feedback over 12 yrs so i guess they take care of me), Generally i don't have any problems as you get cute on eBay after you get stung once or twice in the beginning but that's down to cunningly written descriptions and is the buyers own fault for not reading it two or three times to make sure.

But aside from that there is always a few who are just bad sellers, indeed i had one seller pull as dirty a trick as ive seen on the bay lately and they had 100% feedback, i was 100% correct in everything i did in the transaction so they lost out in the end and i can also tell you they dont have 100% feedback anymore...
the concierge will refund me 100% of my money including postage costs if i have a problem or win a case against a seller but if paying through paypall (which i only ever do) they will also refund postage costs but maybe you need to be spending a bit to get that service, i know they will refund me on my purchase if there is an issue and im not going through the concierge.
as with others i have the security of money back with paypall as well (only if you pay the winning bid in full mind) so its a security for me and ive never had an issue with them.

if there is an issue with a purchase id normally msg the seller first to give them the chance to sort it out, 95% will do so and it may have just been a human error which i dont mind if they are honest but some wont bother, depending on my spidey senses i might msg them again to expect no reply but it looks good for me if a case is opened, i did try...,
its amazing how the mention of opening a case if you dont get an initial reply spurs them on..., but then there are just the 2% that deserve to have a case opened against them.

Now if your opening a case, and its not something i do lightly but when i do i am in the right, if you happen to be at that point your not going to be leaving a 5 star feedback for them any time soon so what i learned to do a long time ago was before i opened a case id leave negative feedback first and then open it immediately after because if you open the case against them first you no longer have the ability to leave feedback for that seller..
but bear in mind, you need to be right in the first place to pull that move.

 

[tomlad]

Ive rarely had issues, if any tbf
If things weren't quite right but not that bad i just don't feedback.
Don't think I'm gonna bad feedback for £4 , but 100% they sent wrong item, never explained y i cant have the one i bid on.
Case is closed for me .

 

[Fendtbro]

a quick change MT holder is kinda old school now, iirc it was more for Mt boring bars than anything which in themselves are rare now.
some people use them for drilling holes but normally not too big of holes, they use them that way because maybe you need to drill deeper than the tailstock spindle would allow or some find it easier to drill a deep hole without winding in and out the tailstock all the time.
but you need to be precise in setting one up if you are using it for drilling, as in center all the time, a dro is a big help here but unless your QC toolpost has a dead locking pin your in dodgy territory as things can move, also your putting a lot of pressure on your tool post and your carriage saddle which wasn't really meant for drilling with.
some would use it for drilling as the power feed can be handy but again the lathe wasnt really made for this process.
if you have your lathe correctly leveled then the tailstock is for drilling be it with a chuck on a MT or a MT drill itself.

Ah ha, I think you've just answered why my Colchester mascot drills a bit off centre.. not levelled correctly?

 

[tomlad]

Have a look utube mate
This old tony , very educational and addictive workshop porn .
He has a episode on this very subject
In all honesty mine has not bin properly sighted in it home yet, its slap bang were i put it with the fork lift, right in the way.

 

[davieh3350]

Ah ha, I think you've just answered why my Colchester mascot drills a bit off centre.. not levelled correctly?

is the tailstock lined up centrally?

 

[Ley253]

is the tailstock lined up centrally?

My thoughts exactly, previous user may have turned a taper, and not put things back!

 

[Fendtbro]

is the tailstock lined up centrally?

Not sure..What's the best way to check? how do you go about levelling the lathe correctly?

 

[davieh3350]

Not sure..What's the best way to check? how do you go about levelling the lathe correctly?

A precision level and shims and then anchor bolts to stop it moving about.
Lay the level across the top of the ways or on parallels on the flats of the ways so the level clears the tops of the inverted Vs if you're going to be super accurate at both ends of the bed and you'll see if there's any wind in it and how it is front to back, then lay it down the ways at the four corners to see how it looks that way. (making sure there's no raised burrs from things being dropped and that the level is set correctly, there's an adjuster on mine and it read differently at 180*)
Put shims under the base till you have it wind/twist free at least, then anchor it down and check it hasn't thrown it off level again.
My grinder has hollow adjuster feet that you put anchor bolts down through so you don't put pressure on the base and throw the level off. Put some plate under adjuster screws to stop them working their way into the concrete.

(I've a lot of levelling to do on mine...)

The wind/twist in it is the important one, it could be higher at one end or sloping back or forward but without a twist in it and it should cut accurately, you just wouldn't be able to use a level to set things up or should you get carried away, start scraping it.


Is it built on to a cabinet?

There's grub screws between the base of the tailstock and the body that houses the quill that shift it towards or away from you (another to lock it at the back) so you can turn long tapers and to line it up.
Once you know it's level you can put a bar between centres and take a light cut either end at the same reading on your cross slide dial (with the top slide turned so that the backlash is taken out, naturally..) then measure both. A larger reading at the headstock end means the tailstock needs bringing towards you, and a smaller reading means it needs moving away from you.
You could also put a test bar between centres, mount a dti on the saddle set on the bar and run it up and down the bed watching the readings. If the reading climbs as it gets to the tailstock it needs moved away.
The tailstock could be worn and be drooping down at the end of the quill and be off centre that way too. You could put the dti on top of the bar and see if it drops as it heads to the tailstock.

 

[tomlad]

Correct link i think

 

[TheTallGuy]

Lathe levelling is a bit of a misdirection - what's more critical is that the ways are true to the axis spindle & that the whole assembly is rigidly mounted to avoid flexing. When levelling you are looking for a consistent level across the ways all along the bed - that consistent level can be 45 degrees as long as it is consistent. The ToT video kind of covers this, but he does skim over some aspects. The taper he demonstrates could come from front-back twist (as he demonstrates), end to end bowing, wear in the ways, off-centre tailstock, ways out of line with the headstock, tailstock misalignment & wear in the tailstock are the main culprits.

The approach that I was taught was to test & correct for consistent level across the bed along its length as per ToT, then test along the bed for dips/bowing. After that a test bar is mounted in a 4 jaw chuck or if available a specialist collet & set to run true both near the chuck and as far a possible - if necessary using a fixed steady at the far end to support the test bar; an indicator dial can now be run along the side and top of the test bar (turning at low speed/by hand to average surface imperfections out) using the carriage - the end to end deviation will show how closely the ways & the headstock bearings are aligned. An incremental change would suggest simple misalignment, where as a high/low spot would suggest wear. Once this has been corrected to minimum it should be possible to centre the tailstock by performing test cuts as per the video & comparing the cut diameters at either end.

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

Anyone have an idea what this lathe is worth 3 jaw and 4 jaw chucks 2 face plates, motor drive of a line shaft, make is "The Chester Lathe Company"

 

[Horncastlefarm]

Also looking to sell ours with all
Accessories with it. Myford ML7

Can send more pictures if necessary of all tools/accessories

 

[tinman]

I could be wrong here pennine ploughing but the Chester lathe Co went out of business a long time ago and their name was either sold or Aquired or just taken by a far Eastern company and now you have cheap and crappy Chester lathes, mostly mini ones.
Now I could be way out there but something tells me I read that and more on it a few yrs ago somewhere but it's all I can remember.

As for worth, not to Diss it or anything but my guess would be 3-400 and I'm being generous at that tbh, your not going to get parts or extras for it now, it's basically obsolete, the fact it comes with all you have will help it.
But it may be a collectors item and could be worth may more than that too, time on google would confirm or deny that tho.

As for that myford jww,
Is it on a metal table or a wooden cabinet and is either original?
If it is then it's worth money, I honestly don't know why but the bay is littered with items for a myford, whether they are small or handy or there is so much to be got for them I don't know but they are like catnip, if it was cleaned up, was all original and nothing broken then it's worth 1k and up depending on what it's sitting on.

Personally I wouldn't touch it but like I say, catnip.
I found a Harrison 13" swing lathe for a friend a few weeks ago, came with a lot of extras, metric version, one of the higher speed gearboxes, reverser lever and in damn fine condition and all for £800.
That lathe there would do a lot of larger work for anyone for small money and a bull strong lathe.
Different folks for different strokes I guess.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

I could be wrong here pennine ploughing but the Chester lathe Co went out of business a long time ago and their name was either sold or Aquired or just taken by a far Eastern company and now you have cheap and crappy Chester lathes, mostly mini ones.
Now I could be way out there but something tells me I read that and more on it a few yrs ago somewhere but it's all I can remember.

As for worth, not to Diss it or anything but my guess would be 3-400 and I'm being generous at that tbh, your not going to get parts or extras for it now, it's basically obsolete, the fact it comes with all you have will help it.
But it may be a collectors item and could be worth may more than that too, time on google would confirm or deny that tho.

As for that myford jww,
Is it on a metal table or a wooden cabinet and is either original?
If it is then it's worth money, I honestly don't know why but the bay is littered with items for a myford, whether they are small or handy or there is so much to be got for them I don't know but they are like catnip, if it was cleaned up, was all original and nothing broken then it's worth 1k and up depending on what it's sitting on.

Personally I wouldn't touch it but like I say, catnip.
I found a Harrison 13" swing lathe for a friend a few weeks ago, came with a lot of extras, metric version, one of the higher speed gearboxes, reverser lever and in damn fine condition and all for £800.
That lathe there would do a lot of larger work for anyone for small money and a bull strong lathe.
Different folks for different strokes I guess.

When I'm ready (ie: I think I can get away with it ) I'll be holding out for a Harrison or larger Colchester.

I certainly aim to take one south with us.

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

I could be wrong here pennine ploughing but the Chester lathe Co went out of business a long time ago and their name was either sold or Aquired or just taken by a far Eastern company and now you have cheap and crappy Chester lathes, mostly mini ones.
Now I could be way out there but something tells me I read that and more on it a few yrs ago somewhere but it's all I can remember.

As for worth, not to Diss it or anything but my guess would be 3-400 and I'm being generous at that tbh, your not going to get parts or extras for it now, it's basically obsolete, the fact it comes with all you have will help it.
But it may be a collectors item and could be worth may more than that too, time on google would confirm or deny that tho.

As for that myford jww,
Is it on a metal table or a wooden cabinet and is either original?
If it is then it's worth money, I honestly don't know why but the bay is littered with items for a myford, whether they are small or handy or there is so much to be got for them I don't know but they are like catnip, if it was cleaned up, was all original and nothing broken then it's worth 1k and up depending on what it's sitting on.

Personally I wouldn't touch it but like I say, catnip.
I found a Harrison 13" swing lathe for a friend a few weeks ago, came with a lot of extras, metric version, one of the higher speed gearboxes, reverser lever and in damn fine condition and all for £800.
That lathe there would do a lot of larger work for anyone for small money and a bull strong lathe.
Different folks for different strokes I guess.

are well good reply, and £300 was what i had in mind, so I may be about right, it is for sale, as its just dry stored for a few years

 

[Horncastlefarm]

I could be wrong here pennine ploughing but the Chester lathe Co went out of business a long time ago and their name was either sold or Aquired or just taken by a far Eastern company and now you have cheap and crappy Chester lathes, mostly mini ones.
Now I could be way out there but something tells me I read that and more on it a few yrs ago somewhere but it's all I can remember.

As for worth, not to Diss it or anything but my guess would be 3-400 and I'm being generous at that tbh, your not going to get parts or extras for it now, it's basically obsolete, the fact it comes with all you have will help it.
But it may be a collectors item and could be worth may more than that too, time on google would confirm or deny that tho.

As for that myford jww,
Is it on a metal table or a wooden cabinet and is either original?
If it is then it's worth money, I honestly don't know why but the bay is littered with items for a myford, whether they are small or handy or there is so much to be got for them I don't know but they are like catnip, if it was cleaned up, was all original and nothing broken then it's worth 1k and up depending on what it's sitting on.

Personally I wouldn't touch it but like I say, catnip.
I found a Harrison 13" swing lathe for a friend a few weeks ago, came with a lot of extras, metric version, one of the higher speed gearboxes, reverser lever and in damn fine condition and all for £800.
That lathe there would do a lot of larger work for anyone for small money and a bull strong lathe.
Different folks for different strokes I guess.

Thanks.

It is on a wooden cabinet not sure if original or not. Would have to check. All in working order.

Might be one to dig all the accessories out, figure what they are and advertise on eBay. Can’t really do with the hassle of that mind!

 

[tomlad]

What blueing are people using
Bin having a look on tube birch wood casey perma or super i think seemed faverate ? I'll have to try one eh

 

[tomlad]

Ive got a few more dixon style tool holders than i need
If anyone wants to buy a few then msg me plz . Or they'll list on ebay .
My holders are 98mm wide t2 s2 .