Drilling rape

nxy

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Mixed Farmer
That seed rate would be light compared to here but we are spring down. How many plants per square foot at]re you aiming for. Here I’m very happy at 5. three will make a bushy crop and strong plants.
Here spring rape is normally sown at double or more the winter rape rate as your targeting 100 plants per square metre instead of 50.
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Intrested to know what seed rate you guys are using when just rolling in the seed. if its a wet week after I guess it catches ok. Seed rate,tgw and establishment % plants per sq ft if you’d be so kind. Thx
50 seeds/m2 for an expensive hybrid. 80+ for home saved conventional varieties. That’s for dropping either side of a deep tine in front of the rear packer, accepting a few seeds are lost down the slot.
 

Hesstondriver

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Huntingdon
Somewhere I have a United Oilseeds growers guide from the late 70s. Recommended seed rate was 8 to 10 pounds to the acre (10Kg/ha) and that was back in the pre "double low/low biomass "days.

Here we drill 3-4Kg/ha if using certified seed or 5-6Kg/ha if using home saved and sometimes more if conditions are not right and just dropping on the floor in front of a roll..
And guys who splatter it on thick here - there crops always look the best .
A thick crop deters pigeons . Easier if FSS though
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
How much chopped straw will these deep tine seeders cope with? Thinking of asking a contractor to do some spring barley stubbles. Not a massive amount of straw but it would stop my paraplow without prior discing. Trying to conserve moisture.
 
How much chopped straw will these deep tine seeders cope with? Thinking of asking a contractor to do some spring barley stubbles. Not a massive amount of straw but it would stop my paraplow without prior discing. Trying to conserve moisture.
our twb 12 mm legs and cutting disc they have good leg spacing
that was after 5 ton wheat crop
would not think about any rape or cover crop unless 40mm of rain
 

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DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Finally cracked. Drilling it with the unidrill. Dry as snuff but trying to get it an inch deep so it doesn’t just chit and die if we get a small shower then dries up. Maybe I should have waited. Don’t know. Could even be in too deep. A year of difficult decisions.
 

thorpe

Member
Finally cracked. Drilling it with the unidrill. Dry as snuff but trying to get it an inch deep so it doesn’t just chit and die if we get a small shower then dries up. Maybe I should have waited. Don’t know. Could even be in too deep. A year of difficult decisions.
been waiting for this ! what do we do , trioed to 6 ince discs doing nowt , rolled down . do we drill now or drill after rain?
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
been waiting for this ! what do we do , trioed to 6 ince discs doing nowt , rolled down . do we drill now or drill after rain?
It’s a casino. We disced and rolled down tight. Quite nice crumby tilth but dry as. Then drilled trying to get it an inch down which isn’t easy to get right. Was power harrowing but it floated the straw back up and crested a mat and left no crumb structure which I think causes a bad slump if it rains a lot in the autumn. Not as level as I’d like but it will have to do. Home saved seed so still time for another go later or spray off and drill wheat. If it doesn’t rain significantly next week then I will have wasted my time but if it does rain I might get away with it.
Everything nowadays seems to be about taking a gamble and thinking of the step after if it fails while keeping costs down.
 

thorpe

Member
It’s a casino. We disced and rolled down tight. Quite nice crumby tilth but dry as. Then drilled trying to get it an inch down which isn’t easy to get right. Was power harrowing but it floated the straw back up and crested a mat and left no crumb structure which I think causes a bad slump if it rains a lot in the autumn. Not as level as I’d like but it will have to do. Home saved seed so still time for another go later or spray off and drill wheat. If it doesn’t rain significantly next week then I will have wasted my time but if it does rain I might get away with it.
Everything nowadays seems to be about taking a gamble and thinking of the step after if it fails while keeping costs down.
for us the trio is brill never had to use ph after it . very mixed soil types leaves it good! followed with co4 other than dd how lower cost can we go?
 

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