Drought

Cloudy this morning but no rain forcast
 

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CornishTone

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Cornwall
Ahh...this is why i farm in Portland AUS. no droughts...maybe wet ones at times.

Cant start a farming career in drought ir frost prone country IMB.

Pic of my balansa seed crop sown with wheat nurse crop...thats doing way to well.

Ant...

(Sorry, off topic)
So what will you do with, or how do you manage, the nurse crop?
 

holwellcourtfarm

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Livestock Farmer
Thought we might get a storm around that time,as it went very windy here and the temp dropped quickly . It was rough all night, but no rain. We often miss showers here, as they either follow the welsh hills to the west, or skip off down the Cheshire gap.
Lots of places in the UK have local topographical weather effects. It's no wonder weather forecasting is so hard here. :inpain:
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
2mm here last night. A welcome sight but another inch would be nice. There's a Bank Holiday weekend coming up - that usually makes the weather turn!
 
(Sorry, off topic)
So what will you do with, or how do you manage, the nurse crop?

The plan is to bring in the praire maggots and graze hell out of it...then let balansa climb over wheat. Wheat only had dap with it...should slow up in the wet...balansa will grow like stink.

The wheat is to aide the grazing for bloat...and help aerate the clover stand to stop seed rotting in pods.

But like the navy seals say...the only time things go to plan is in the planning room.

Ant...
 
All this talk of drought around the world

By definition drought is a period of below average rain fall

2 weeks or more dry in parts of England 2 seasons or more dry in Australia and every combination in between

One thing is certain if it stays dry selling grain be careful buying livestock be careful
 

Pilatus

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Location
cotswolds
I used to dread these drying Easterly winds when farming 6 to 8 inches of Cotswold brash , with only almost solid limestone underneath.
The Arable Research Centre had their trials site on the farm for a few years but moved because the soil was so poor !!!!
 
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NOT A DROUGHT
This field was turnips this winter and had standing water on it for most of that. It was a bloody swamp. Its clay and had capped quite badly after that and its only just dried enough to be able to drive on it. Am quite glad to see the cracks to give it a good aerating without having to drag more metal through it. Will regrass it sometime this month or next. Not a drought though but someone with shallow rooted crop in it might call it dry or even a drought.
Whats everyone else got to show then? o_O

May i suggest you introduce yourself to balansa clover to plant with those turnips...might look a bit healthier?? When its wet a the days start to lengthen it should grow like mad.

Ant...
 

Blaithin

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Alberta
@Farmer Roy, @Kiwi Pete, @Blaithin and anyone else who farms away from the UK...

Have you noticed a change in your weather? Are the Droughts worse, better, or about the same as they always have been, for example? More rain, less rain, more wind, more sun etc etc etc?
Sorry, I'm slow.

A change in it? No. It's as unpredictable as ever :ROFLMAO: Some years are one thing, some are another. The drought I mentioned earlier came along with El Nino. Brown winters, hot dry summers. The year it flooded bad here came after El Nina. Haven't heard of any El's being applied to us lately so we must just be back in "typical" mode.

The weather isn't very predictable. What could happen in two weeks depends on what happens next week and anything can happen between now and next week to change that. A volcano can erupt and an ash cloud can float by. Who knows.

But has the climate changed? I'd say yes, it is. The bugs are proving it is. The fungi are proving it is. BC's forests were wiped out by the Pine Beetle. Why did the Pine Beetle take off all of a sudden? The winter wasn't cold enough for LONG enough. Similar to this winter. Why were there so many rusty grain beetles in wheat? Well it didn't help it went into the bins at nearly 40 degrees... but a quick fact sheet says the grain temperature has to be -15 for 4 weeks before the beetles die. While we have cold spells in winter, they aren't lasting long enough to really deter the pests.

Same with fusarium. Didn't used to be a problem much in Canada. Kind of stuck in it's area of introduction down in the Red River basin in Manitoba. But as the climate is becoming more accommodating and the winters not so cold, it's spreading farther west and farther north.

I figure people can argue climate change and global warming as much as they like, when you see a bunch of organisms taking off all of a sudden you can't think "Hey, they all evolved to succeed exponentially at the exact same time!" Something has obviously happened to give them a foot up.

In my area I wouldn't say we usually get less precipitation than other years. However WHEN we get it and what the weather does afterwards has just as big an affect as how much we get. We had a lot of snow this winter. Some of you may have seen it in my Day a Month photos. It caused flooding when it melted. Some of you may have seen those photos. Does it help our water table out? Not really. The frost is still in the ground during spring melt so the runoff doesn't go down, it runs off. I got half an inch of rain the other day. It's been at least 25 above and windy ever since (wind is very common here). Especially with crops just starting to sprout here and grass finally starting to take off, there is a lot of bare ground with little to no cover that allows that sun and that wind to just suck the moisture out.

So to answer your question in short form after all that babbling: Do I think weather is worse, better, the same? I don't think it's any of those. It's evolving as it always does, always changing in some way, never the same. It's not better or worse, it's just what we have to live with.
 

Blaithin

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Alberta
How EXACTLY can we prepare ?

It's either a one in ten year drought,
Or, a never ending monsoon.
Crops or varieties that suit a drought, won't suit a monsoon.
A decent long range forecast might help a bit.
What are long range forecasts like in other parts of the world ?, do you have to pay for a decent service ? @Blaithin , @Farmer Roy , @Kiwi Pete ?
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I don't bother to look 3 days ahead, it'll change.

The almanac and long range prophet tellings are usually fairly close with their "It will be a hot, dry summer" but they don't go for anything more specific like "You'll get 2" of rain tomorrow".

I like seeing what the old wive's tales, farmers tales, Indian tale, whatever the heck you want to call them say. Spider webs floating everywhere in fall mean an Indian Summer for instance. We had a lot of fog in March so the tale is 90 days after you'll get precipitation. Well that takes us to June which is usually our wet month so maybe. (I hope!) And while the prophets are saying hot and dry the old Indian tale is that short crocus stems mean a hot summer, long crocus stems mean wet. Well the crocus stems are particularly long this spring. Hmmm.
 

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