Electric fencing earthing

[Mc115reed]

Iv got a problem with a tosser of a fisher man or paddle boarder or something pulling my corner post out in a field and then pulling it out into the field 10ft and dropping it on the floor… the corner post is the blue circle… and the energizer and reel post is the red circle…

If I wrapped the electric fence wire around the corner post would it then electrify the metal corner post and still keep the shock in the fence because it’s at the end of the fence? Or not? Trying to think of a way too stop the pansy before my sheep get out because of it….

 

[David1968]

I think it'll short the whole fence.

Maybe wrap the post with bale tape and then wrap the wire round it

 

[Dead Rabbits]

Non conducive post driven in, metal pipe with wire tied direct on. Make it take some effort to remove so a stick or something can’t be used.

If clever they will just cut it with insulated pliers though.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Drive in a post they can't just pull out.
Even something like a kiwitech arrowpost needs about 250kg of pull to get out, or a waratah / star picket / metal post.

Are they just pulling it out so they can access the riverbank without getting a boot off the fence?

 

[sheepdogtrail]

So it reads like to me that you want to have your fence still work while at the same time providing a electric connection to the corner post. How is your fence constructed and how many joules does the fencer output? The more joules the fencer is putting out the better your fence will work if it is shorted out by the corner post.

 

[Mc115reed]

Drive in a post they can't just pull out.
Even something like a kiwitech arrowpost needs about 250kg of pull to get out, or a waratah / star picket / metal post.

Are they just pulling it out so they can access the riverbank without getting a boot off the fence?

It’s a rappa post driven in until you can’t see the feet pegs no more id say it takes them a good deal of effort too pull out .. they’ve done it 10+ times now though
To get too the river bank is the only logical explanation I have

So it reads like to me that you want to have your fence still work while at the same time providing a electric connection to the corner post. How is your fence constructed and how many joules does the fencer output? The more joules the fencer is putting out the better your fence will work if it is shorted out by the corner post.

The fencer is 3.5 joules and my tester reads 10kva off it..
earth is a scaffold pole driven into the river… I thought it would probably just short the whole fence but wondered if it might not with it being at the end off the run

 

[Estate fencing.]

Otho k I’d just let them have that corner of the field.

 

[Dry Rot]

Why not insulate a small section of the wire so he can hop over? I run my permanent fence through a metre or so of blue alkathene so I can step over. Unless there's some compromise, I can see this beating 'how to remove a dead horse'!

 

[Kiwi Pete]

It’s a rappa post driven in until you can’t see the feet pegs no more id say it takes them a good deal of effort too pull out .. they’ve done it 10+ times now though
To get too the river bank is the only logical explanation I have

The fencer is 3.5 joules and my tester reads 10kva off it..
earth is a scaffold pole driven into the river… I thought it would probably just short the whole fence but wondered if it might not with it being at the end off the run

Not sure what I'd do there.

TBH it would probably be to drive a steel pipe in the ground for a post, and insulate a very short section of fence through insultube or alkathene as @Dry Rot said above. Or some undergate cable to tie off your leccy fence to.

In NZ we have "Queen's Chain" rules that make for good riverbank access - not sure what you have to do in that respect - we use it, graze it, but do not own it.

 

[unlacedgecko]

Iv got a problem with a tosser of a fisher man or paddle boarder or something pulling my corner post out in a field and then pulling it out into the field 10ft and dropping it on the floor… the corner post is the blue circle… and the energizer and reel post is the red circle… View attachment 1064766
If I wrapped the electric fence wire around the corner post would it then electrify the metal corner post and still keep the shock in the fence because it’s at the end of the fence? Or not? Trying to think of a way too stop the pansy before my sheep get out because of it….

It'll short the whole fence.

A rappa corner/reel post shorting the fence will bleed 22a. You'll have a fence kicking 3/4kV.

Blue pipe "stile" to allow access is your best bet.

 

[neilo]

+1 for shorting the whole fence out. The end post will provide an easier route to ground than an animal touching the fence.

 

[Mc115reed]

It'll short the whole fence.

A rappa corner/reel post shorting the fence will bleed 22a. You'll have a fence kicking 3/4kV.

Blue pipe "stile" to allow access is your best bet.

I’m not allowing the pansies access as far as I know they’ve no right too be there.. going too knock a wooden stake in tonight atleast that won’t be as easy too grip too pull out

 

[neilo]

Could you find a long 1” steel bar to knock in, a length of alkathene pipe that just fits over it, and a length of steel pipe that fits over that?
You’d need some way of stopping them just slipping the tubes over the top though.

Failing that, dark clothes, patience and a big stick?

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Or put 2 anchor posts in to cut the corner off

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

I’m not allowing the pansies access as far as I know they’ve no right too be there.. going too knock a wooden stake in tonight atleast that won’t be as easy too grip too pull out

You can put multiple nail on insulaters on your wooden post so it's covered in live wires

 

[davidroberts30]

S s s

 

[Dry Rot]

If he's a fisherman, are you sure he does not have legal access along the river bank? It would be odd if that is not included in his lease. Time to look at the small print on your own lease?

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Could you find a long 1” steel bar to knock in, a length of alkathene pipe that just fits over it, and a length of steel pipe that fits over that?
You’d need some way of stopping them just slipping the tubes over the top though.

Failing that, dark clothes, patience and a big stick?

Weld a bloody big washer on top of the pipe and maul it all down tight.

Big rebar would do it?

Would just need to keep the bottom of the live outer clear of grass, a ring of dead hedgehogs is probably going to get someone's phone ringing

 

[Mc115reed]

If he's a fisherman, are you sure he does not have legal access along the river bank? It would be odd if that is not included in his lease. Time to look at the small print on your own lease?

There’s a fisherman’s stand in that corner of the field on the river bank that’s why I think it’s a fisherman… but the fence is atleast 2 metres from the stand, and there’s a 2metre wide path too it from the gate, as far as I’m concerned Iv done my bit he doesn’t have a right too anymore space…

 

[neilo]

Big rebar would do it?

I think big rebar might be over the top. That’s why I suggested a stick.